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On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) |
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<hkBst@g.o> wrote: |
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> "right now you are the kind of person that thinks being a volunteer is a |
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> privilege and not a responsibility. You think that because you don't get paid |
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> that you don't have to do it. I assure you that if you look at most non foss |
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> volunteer jobs you either have to do your job or quit. it is the same in open |
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> source. perhaps I'm judging you wrongly." -- |
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> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260582#c6 |
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> It seems like you want to tell us how to do our jobs. It seems like you think |
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> you have the right to tell us what to do. Now, I'm happy to be wrong about those |
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> views, but that's what it looks like to me. |
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and what's your perspective? who gets to tell you what to do? it's not |
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that I get to. but what I said I do believe, is common among foss |
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developers. they don't take volunteering as a responsibility. They |
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don't think of it as their other job. I think they should. It's also a |
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pet peeve of mine so I kinda flew off the handle. |
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question is do you understand what I've written? given your statement |
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below on my blogpost on what you think I've implied (I'll respond |
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directly) you might be wrong about this to. |
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this is also the reason that I have to carefully consider being a |
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gentoo dev. if I do, I have a responsibility to the users of my |
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packages. |
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> The point is that you don't know whether someone else has a good judgement of |
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> better. People that have been taking care of certain parts of the tree may just |
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> know something you don't. This is why we encourage people to talk to maintainers |
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> when they touch their packages but also encourage maintainers not to feel too |
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> possessive. |
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sometimes it's just a difference of opinion. it depends on your |
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opinion of "what's right" and "what's better". but sometimes even the |
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smartest person is wrong. I do not claim to be always right, and I'm |
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most certainly not. |
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but I don't think I'm wrong when I say it's wrong not to version bump |
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a package when all it takes is the copy of a previous ebuild. I don't |
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think I'm wrong when a bug is put on hold due to other bugs, (for 6+ |
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months) but the maintainer never answers what other bugs. |
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> On your blog[1] you imply that if you decide to not, that you wouldn't be able |
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> to "to talk to people to understand something". I just want to stress that this |
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> is not so. Many of us are available on #gentoo-dev-help and this mailing list |
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> for technical questions. |
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no that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that it's easier to |
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get help if you got 1 or more specific mentor's to help you. asking |
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for help on irc, forums, mailing lists, is often a crap shoot at best. |
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given I get help more often than not. but sometimes you still don't |
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get any (for various reasons, don't know, don't care, not around, |
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don't understand). You read an implication that I didn't actually say. |
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-- |
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Caleb Cushing |
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http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com |
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