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On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:47:32PM +1000, Michael Palimaka wrote: |
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> On 07/11/2017 11:06 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o> wrote: |
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> >> On 07/11/2017 09:29 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: |
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> >>> |
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> >>> Even if such stabilization is allowed, there are unanswered |
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> >>> questions here: |
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> >>> - is following seciton 4.1 from wg recommendations is sufficient? |
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> >>> - should developer test each stabilization candidate on an |
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> >>> up-to-date stable setup? |
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> >> |
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> >> The guidelines from that document are ripped straight out of the |
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> >> devmanual and are a good starting point but rather generic. You can find |
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> >> some more detailed suggestions on things to consider while testing on |
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> >> the wiki: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Package_testing |
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> >> |
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> > |
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> > I think that in practice arch teams don't do have the stuff on that |
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> > wiki page. Maybe some people do, but back when I was an amd64 AT I |
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> > don't think anybody went testing multiple USE combinations for a |
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> > typical package. |
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> Everything on that page is deliberately a suggestion only, and not |
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> necessarily specific to stabilisation testing. |
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> In the end, we've never been able to reach any consensus on what exactly |
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> an arch tester should do. Personally, I think we should just switch to |
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> fully-automated, build-only testing for stabilistions unless the |
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> maintainer opts otherwise (something that largely happens in practice |
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> already). The main risk of breakage of a package moving from testing to |
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> stable is always at build time anyway. |
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I would not be opposed to this. As a maintainer, I am as guilty as the |
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next guy of not filing stable requests or not stabilizing packages. |