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On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:09:23 -0500 |
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Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn |
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> <chithanh@g.o> wrote: |
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> > This claim was made by upstream, no less. And it refers to |
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> > *running* udev without systemd as opposed to building (which |
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> > upstream already made impossible). |
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> > Here is the exact wording: |
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> > "Unless the systemd-haters prepare another |
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> > kdbus userspace until then this will effectively also mean that we |
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> > will not support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at |
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> > that point. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call." |
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> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html |
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> > Not sure what about this is FUD. |
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> The fact that it came from Lennart doesn't make it any less FUD. |
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IMHO this makes a good argument for the wait&see (aka keep sys-fs/udev |
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default) position: |
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- May 2014: Lennart writes the world will fall apart and udev will |
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somewhat require systemd with kdbus. |
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- May/June 2015: kdbus is first sent for review/merge for the linux 4.1 |
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merge window (I think). |
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- Feb. 2016: kdbus has been included then removed from fedora kernels, |
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it is being reworked and is not even proposed for the linux 4.5 merge |
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window. |
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I'd say we still have some time to see how things will evolve :) |
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Alexis. |