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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:09:30
Message-Id: CAGfcS_=A7AB8Ny=tmNmO2in0Lq3d3iWtPx1Ar9Ur=W_g1nnO3Q@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider by "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn"
1 On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2 <chithanh@g.o> wrote:
3 >
4 > This claim was made by upstream, no less. And it refers to *running* udev
5 > without systemd as opposed to building (which upstream already made
6 > impossible).
7 >
8 > Here is the exact wording:
9 > "Unless the systemd-haters prepare another
10 > kdbus userspace until then this will effectively also mean that we will
11 > not support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at that
12 > point. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."
13 > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html
14 >
15 > Not sure what about this is FUD.
16 >
17
18 The fact that it came from Lennart doesn't make it any less FUD.
19
20 I don't think that the eudev folks plan to completely go off in a
21 separate direction, so most likely whatever changes occur to systemd
22 to keep udev running will probably end up getting made to openrc to
23 keep (e)udev running.
24
25 If the argument was that we should be running eudev by default because
26 it is better I could buy that. However, this seems to be an argument
27 based on a fear of what some other project might do in the future.
28
29 Even the great Lennart doesn't know with certainty what the future
30 holds for udev/systemd/etc.
31
32 --
33 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider Alexis Ballier <aballier@g.o>