Re: [gentoo-dev] DESCRIPTION="Based on the ${ECLASS} eclass"

[Rick \\\"Zero_Chaos\\\" Farina]

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On 09/15/2012 03:59 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:43:42 -0400
> "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@g.o> wrote:
>
>> On 09/14/2012 05:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:18:16 -0400
>>> "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@g.o> wrote:
>>>
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>>>> On 09/14/2012 04:56 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:51:54 -0400
>>>>> "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@g.o> wrote:
>>>>>> I have a personal vendetta on this subject. Several eclasses set
>>>>>> a completely worthless description (and even more set a mostly
>>>>>> worthless DESCRIPTION) which ends up contaminating the
>>>>>> DESCRIPTION for an ebuild when inherit is done after DESCRIPTION
>>>>>> is set.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/78813/
>>>>>
>>>>>> I realize that most of you will find this a little pedantic,
>>>>>> however, I find that needing to move my DESCRIPTION to below the
>>>>>> inherit often severely affects the readability of the ebuild, and
>>>>>> all to avoid a completely (or nearly) worthless DESCRIPTION from
>>>>>> contaminating my environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> You want your inherit line to be as near as the top as possible.
>>>>> The only things you should have before the inherit line are EAPI
>>>>> and any variables used by eclasses to determine behaviour.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I have a nasty habit of writing ebuilds to be both live and
>>>> versioned which requires me to test ${PV} then set things like
>>>> inherit VCS, SRC-URI, and KEYWORDS below.  The large if block
>>>> looks better in my opinion below the settings which are the same
>>>> for all versions, rather than in the middle.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's a readability issue, but the point is, this shouldn't be
>>>> an issue at all.
>>>
>>> Use unifdef. Look at my overlay, and my ebuilds in the tree.
>>>
>>
>> So just so we are clear, everyone but me thinks that
>> DESCRIPTION="Based on the ${ECLASS} eclass" is a completely useful
>> and critically required piece of code?
>
> No. We agree with you that it is useless but you are saying that with
> a *completely* wrong reasoning.
>
>> Until that point I'll probably keep bringing this up.
>
> Don't forget to threaten us that you'll leave Gentoo.

While I may be completely unreasonable in my requests you will never see
those words spoken from me.  If all of you quit I'd develop gentoo
(poorly) by myself and if I was kicked out (which I'll try to avoid)
I'll keep developing Pentoo based on Gentoo as I have been for the last
7 years.  Please don't mistake my belly aching for a lack of dedication
to this project, it is precisely my dedication that causes me to care so
much.

- -Zero
>

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