Re: [gentoo-dev] Speaking of new kernels being added to the tree

[Luke-Jr]

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On Saturday 04 October 2003 01:51 pm, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> On Saturday 04 October 2003 2:10 pm, Luke-Jr wrote:
> > You could always 'emerge linux-src' if Portage were to add the -src
> > suffix as I described.
>
> And what would that give me?  The current range of sources in Portage gives
> me a nice selection of choice.  Personally, I'm very happy with it.
emerge linux-mm-src, then. or emerge linux-redhat-src, if you prefer.
>
> > I don't think it should modify the configurations, only a few symlinks
> > that you can ignore if you choose to.
>
> No thanks.
Just because you choose not to use it doesn't mean you should be forcing other 
people not to be able to. This provides the *option* to use it. Options are 
always best.
>
> > If you'd be compiling the kernel for another system, you could have
> > Portage build only a GRP. As for local dependencies, the
> > development-sources already depend on the module-init-tools needed to run
> > them even though the sources don't actually need it.
>
> And what about kernel modules that are required?  How will those get
> re-compiled?  You can't just re-emerge them, because they have this
> annoying habit of going and deleting the currently-installed version ...
That annoying habit is what should be fixed, then. Using a bug as a reason to 
not implement a feature isn't a good idea... =p
>
> > It might also be worth noting that often
> > the time between a system update and etc-update, your system could in
> > theory be unbootable were there to be a power failure.
>
> I'm sorry, but I really do think that this idea is both stupid, and more
> trouble than it's worth.  Administrators have been managing their boxes
> just fine up to now.
For the most part, what I am suggesting is adding options, not removing them. 
Where people used vanilla-sources in the past (which is quite vague actually; 
why should one assume -sources means it's Linux?), they would now simply be 
using linux-src. redhat-sources would be linux-redhat-src. Users who don't 
care to manually recompile their kernels could move over to using linux or 
linux-redhat. It would also let people emerge things such as kdelibs-src or 
apache-src if they wanted to.
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Luke-Jr
Developer, Gentoo Linux
http://www.gentoo.org/
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