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From: "Aaron W. Swenson" <titanofold@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:18:55
Message-Id: 5012F712.7030806@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default by Pacho Ramos
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4 On 07/27/2012 02:29 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
5 > El vie, 27-07-2012 a las 13:24 -0400, Mike Frysinger escribió:
6 >> On Friday 27 July 2012 08:13:16 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
7 >> wrote:
8 >>> Ulrich Mueller schrieb:
9 >>>> As I had pointed out before [1], changing from POSIX to an
10 >>>> en_US locale will have undesirable side effects, like commas
11 >>>> as thousands separators in numbers (because of LC_NUMERIC).
12 >>>> Also the defaults of en_US for LC_MEASUREMENT and LC_PAPER
13 >>>> are only useful in the U.S.
14 >>>>
15 >>>> So if we change the default (but I still don't see the need),
16 >>>> we
17 >>>>
18 >>>> should go for a less intrusive setting like: LANG="POSIX"
19 >>>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.utf8"
20 >>>
21 >>> This would be better than LANG="en_US.utf8" but I would still
22 >>> prefer not to have any country/region attached to the locale.
23 >>> The C.UTF-8 locale which Debian uses for this purpose (a UTF-8
24 >>> locale without side effects) appears more suitable to me.
25 >>
26 >> yes, and i'm waiting on the POSIX group to formalize C.UTF-8.
27 >> that's the only real option in my mind for making unicode the
28 >> default. any other amalgamations of various locales is ugly as
29 >> sin. -mike
30 >
31 > Do you have any idea about how much time could that formalization
32 > take? If it will take a long time, maybe we could go to that
33 > amalgamations :-/
34 >
35
36 Really, how much of an inconvenience is it that we don't use UTF-8 as
37 a default?
38
39 In my mind, it is sufficient that we instruct users how to set the
40 locale in the handbook.
41
42 No user will be happy with whatever we decide to use as a default. I
43 will be especially upset if we use the metric system instead of the
44 *STANDARD* system. It has 'standard' in the name for a reason people.
45 (^_^)
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47 - --
48 Mr. Aaron W. Swenson
49 Gentoo Linux Developer
50 Email : titanofold@g.o
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Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default "Diego Elio Pettenò" <flameeyes@×××××××××.eu>
Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com>