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From: Alec Warner <warnera6@×××××××.edu>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] cleaning out 'bc' and 'ed' from system
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:13:59
Message-Id: 426BF04E.7000105@egr.msu.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] cleaning out 'bc' and 'ed' from system by Anthony de Boer
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4 Anthony de Boer wrote:
5 > Alin Nastac wrote:
6 >
7 >>when was the last time you used ed? it is a completely useless editor,
8 >>peeps use vim instead.
9 >
10 >
11 > I use "vi", not "vim", though of course the former is a symlink to the
12 > latter on Linux systems for the last number of years.
13 >
14 > Last time I used ed was on an RH system with a broken /usr mount; vi
15 > was on that partition, but ed lived in /bin, so I used it to fix
16 > /etc/fstab. Using ed is like riding a bicycle; you remember pretty
17 > quickly how to use it. But then, I've been using Unix since halfway
18 > back to the Epoch.
19 >
20 >
21 >>anyway, who says you cannot install ed if you want it so bad?
22 <snip>
23 > The baseline should be as barebones as possible. Offering a set of
24 > things useful to the new user is a useful default, but should be only
25 > that, not a set of things you have to accept if you want to pick and
26 > choose stuff yourself.
27 >
28 The base-install doesn't include a lot of things I would consider
29 essential on most systems ( log daemon, cron, mta ) yet those are not in
30 system. That is the primary reason why we have a handbook and ask that
31 people both read and follow it. If it's generally agreed that something
32 is important to a system it can always be added there as a suggestion
33 for installation besides the more...obvious things.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] cleaning out 'bc' and 'ed' from system "Jan Kundrát" <jkt@××××××.net>