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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] HDEPEND (host dependencies for cross-compilation) for EAPI 5?
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:47:23
Message-Id: CAGfcS_mjExntFNPDwgdzJGR017Jx6mbW8K5QSdSBQYAMw6P3_w@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] HDEPEND (host dependencies for cross-compilation) for EAPI 5? by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Ciaran McCreesh
2 <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
3 > Uhm. O(n) == O(n/2). Anything assuming they're different is just wrong.
4
5 We're basically debating definitions. O notation is used to indicate
6 how algorithms scale and nobody uses O(n/2) and such as a result.
7
8 An algorithm that is twice as slow is still twice as slow. That might
9 or might not matter. However, this isn't the domain where O notation
10 is used. You use O notation when your algorithm takes 30 seconds to
11 run and you want to know what happens with the dataset doubles 3000
12 times. It generally doesn't matter if the result is that it will take
13 1 trillion years to operate or 2 trillion years. You care more about
14 whether it will take minutes, hours, weeks, years, or whatever.
15
16 I can't really think of any practical examples where multiplying the
17 time to parse a list of maybe 50 items vs 5 lists of 10 items is going
18 to make that big of a difference. They're just lines in a text file -
19 your CPU can compare a few billions characters per second. Sure, if
20 you add 75 layers of abstraction you might be able to find just the
21 right point where a factor of 5 is going to make it intolerable but a
22 factor of 1 is almost acceptable, but go ahead and add/remove a few
23 layers and suddenly it is all fine or all horrible anyway. That is a
24 bit contrived. That's why everybody ignores constant factors in O
25 notation anyway.
26
27 Rich

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