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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] HDEPEND (host dependencies for cross-compilation) for EAPI 5?
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:26:59
Message-Id: CAAr7Pr9sT3eugjei03jSjWRYTD7O+5tpyEZ=3k6cEoD-DR-UJA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] HDEPEND (host dependencies for cross-compilation) for EAPI 5? by Rich Freeman
1 On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
2 > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Ciaran McCreesh
3 > <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
4 >> Uhm. O(n) == O(n/2). Anything assuming they're different is just wrong.
5 >
6 > We're basically debating definitions. O notation is used to indicate
7 > how algorithms scale and nobody uses O(n/2) and such as a result.
8 >
9 > An algorithm that is twice as slow is still twice as slow. That might
10 > or might not matter. However, this isn't the domain where O notation
11 > is used. You use O notation when your algorithm takes 30 seconds to
12 > run and you want to know what happens with the dataset doubles 3000
13 > times. It generally doesn't matter if the result is that it will take
14 > 1 trillion years to operate or 2 trillion years. You care more about
15 > whether it will take minutes, hours, weeks, years, or whatever.
16 >
17 > I can't really think of any practical examples where multiplying the
18 > time to parse a list of maybe 50 items vs 5 lists of 10 items is going
19 > to make that big of a difference. They're just lines in a text file -
20 > your CPU can compare a few billions characters per second. Sure, if
21 > you add 75 layers of abstraction you might be able to find just the
22 > right point where a factor of 5 is going to make it intolerable but a
23 > factor of 1 is almost acceptable, but go ahead and add/remove a few
24 > layers and suddenly it is all fine or all horrible anyway. That is a
25 > bit contrived. That's why everybody ignores constant factors in O
26 > notation anyway.
27
28 so tl;dr, this doesn't matter because string comparison is very fast.
29
30 -A
31
32 >
33 > Rich
34 >