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On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:26:10 -0600 |
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Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o> wrote: |
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> Please do not take this personally. |
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OK, let us try that; interesting to note though, is that this has also |
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been stated in the OP of this thread. People seem to do care personally |
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about this; repeatedly telling them not do, what effect does that have? |
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> I honestly wonder what all the fuss is about. |
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Honest questions help. |
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> There are a few games I've helped with over the years and I've never |
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> had any trouble at all having my stuff reviewed and accepted. And I'm |
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> a lousy ebuild writer. Every time I'd suggest a fix, bump, or new |
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> package, and I came with an ebuild, I would get constructive |
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> criticism and I could then commit it myself. Not one single time did |
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> I get a "no". Not once. |
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We've been there; however, that's not the issue at hand, it takes a |
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non-lousy ebuild writer to see that monopoly surrounds the core of it. |
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Why is that? Because it only starts to matter when it starts to matter. |
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> You had a fix and it was refused? Have you ever considered you may |
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> have been doing it wrong? I understand having to have your code |
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> reviewed and accepted sounds like an insult to a rock star like you, |
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> but that's the way it is in the real world. It is still beyond my |
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> understanding that code reviews are not mandatory for anything that is |
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> committed in Gentoo. |
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We all are rock stars, right? |
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> Rich, if I may have a suggestion, it would be that instead of meddling |
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> with projects that have been doing their best with what they have for |
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> years, and which need praise rather than hindrance, you instead start |
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> a project to get people to think positively and accept criticism. The |
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> amount of energy that was spent in this thread and many others in pure |
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> loss could have gone a long way. |
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Hmm, we're not sure whether we're all Rich though; if I were, I would |
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wonder if you have considered that hindrance works in both directions? |
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We are rock stars; if rock star X hinders rock star Y, Y can hinder X. |
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The effect of telling them to not take it personally, is that they will. |
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This thread is pure win, it just takes some time to see good results... |
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With kind regards, |
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Tom Wijsman (TomWij) |
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Gentoo Developer |
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