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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:02:35
Message-Id: 20050904215931.53b9db51@snowdrop.home
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep by Stuart Herbert
1 On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:26:37 +0100 Stuart Herbert <stuart@g.o>
2 wrote:
3 | > Arch teams need to be allowed to override maintainers where
4 | > appropriate,
5 |
6 | Why not talk to the package maintainers instead, and convince them
7 | that you need a different version marking "maint" instead? Why
8 | "override" (which, tbh, smacks of "we arch teams know best, life would
9 | be better without package maintainers") when you could work with
10 | people instead? You're *not* in competition with package
11 | maintainers. We're all supposed to be working towards the same
12 | thing :)
13
14 Sure, we do that anyway. However, sometimes package maintainers are
15 outright wrong.
16
17 | I've no personal problem with arch teams sometimes needing to do their
18 | own thing, provided it's confined to a specific class of package.
19 | Outside of the core packages required to boot & maintain a platform,
20 | when is there ever a need for arch maintainers to decide that they
21 | know better than package maintainers?
22
23 Pretty regularly. A significant number of package maintainers have a
24 very shoddy attitude towards QA, and a significant number of upstreams
25 have no clue what portability is.
26
27 | If this isn't confined - if arch maintainers are allowed to override
28 | package maintainers wherever they want to - then arch teams need to
29 | take on the support burden. Fair's fair - if it's the arch team
30 | creating the support, it's only fair that they support users in these
31 | cases. It's completely unfair - and unrealistic - to expect a
32 | package maintainer to support a package he/she thinks isn't fit to be
33 | stable on an arch that he/she probably doesn't use anyway. In such a
34 | conflict of egos, the real losers remain our users.
35
36 If it isn't fit to be marked stable, it shouldn't be out of
37 package.mask. ~arch means "candidate for going stable after more
38 testing", not "might work".
39
40 --
41 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
42 Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org
43 Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep Stuart Herbert <stuart@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep "Kevin F. Quinn" <kevquinn@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep Daniel Goller <morfic@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep Simon Stelling <blubb@g.o>