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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?
Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 10:34:55
Message-Id: pan.2006.05.05.10.30.16.627066@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable? by Jeff Rollin
1 Jeff Rollin posted
2 <8a0028260605042228t625ca152p25d65cd6bb9c8e72@××××××××××.com>, excerpted
3 below, on Fri, 05 May 2006 06:28:53 +0100:
4
5 > Or maybe we could move to a fixed release cycle. Debian uses 18 (?)
6 > months, but maybe a 3- or 6-month release cycle would suit us better
7
8 Actually, Gentoo already has that, altho the period is still getting
9 tweaked occasionally. That's what the 200X.Y releases are, with the
10 LiveCDs and stages, and the PackagesCD with its precompiled stuff, for
11 those who want to go that route. In 2004, there were four quarterly
12 releases, 2004.0-2004.3. In 2005, they reduced that to two semi-yearly
13 releases, 2005.0 and 2005.1 (with a 2005.1-r1 coming out soon after, with
14 limited changes fixing limited bugs). In 2006, the target is again two
15 releases, the first of which, 2006.0, has already occurred. Thus, it
16 looks as if the 6-month cycle seems to be suitable for the time being.
17
18 Of course, one of the big benefits to Gentoo is that it's not the jerky
19 upgrade/wait/upgrade cycle other distributions tend toward, but more a
20 continuously upgraded system, with the periodic snapshot releases simply
21 being exactly that, snapshots of the tree that have been fairly well
22 tested on a particular arch and found to work reasonably well as a place
23 to start. Once the system is up and going, the assumption is that folks
24 will update at least a time or two between snapshot releases, with many
25 updating twice weekly to daily. The more frequently you update,
26 generally, the smoother the updates will be, because it won't be such a
27 big jump all at once.
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29 Within that system, what's stable at the particular snapshot date gets
30 tested and included in the stages, and live and packages CDs. There is of
31 course some push to get stuff stable by a particular release, but that
32 pressure hits Gentoo sponsored and targeted projects like portage and
33 baselayout the hardest, with the vast majority of packages affected more
34 by the timing and releases upstream than by Gentoo's snapshot releases.
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36 That's part of what makes Gentoo Gentoo. To change it changes the Gentoo
37 we know into something else -- /not/ the Gentoo we know. I doubt you'll
38 find much support for significant change among Gentoo devs /or/ users,
39 because after all, if they didn't like it, they'd not have chosen Gentoo
40 in the first place, as that's one of the defining characteristics that
41 makes Gentoo what it is.
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