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On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:22:49 -0500 "Dan Meltzer" |
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<parallelgrapefruit@×××××.com> wrote: |
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| *packages where there is no stable version on that arch. (Or does |
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| adjutrix still suggest keywording.. its unclear) |
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Which is fine, since that means no tree bloat. |
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| * This doesn't address the initial claim that versions of packages are |
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| in the tree waiting on only a mips/lesser supported arch to keyword |
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| them. It only says that some arch has keyworded a package stable, and |
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| others havn't, this does not show that version N is only in the tree |
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| because of arch xyz (which is why I stated that adjutrix doesn't do |
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| this). |
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adjutrix shows you what you really want to know, as opposed to your |
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ill thought out claim of what you think it should show. The metric, |
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specifically, is "packages that have a stable version on this arch that |
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have a better stable version on another arch", which is exactly how one |
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measures tree bloat. |
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If you consider "versions only in the tree for one arch" (which, |
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incidentally, is ill defined and ambiguous), the figure is even higher |
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in favour of alt archs, and highly rigged against archs that have more |
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packages stable or that stable new versions faster -- thus, your |
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suggestion isn't a fair benchmark, and even though the numbers make my |
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point even better than honest results, it wouldn't be fair or |
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meaningful to wave them around. |
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| * The numberes themselves could be considdered useless as it only |
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| shows packages which have been marked ~ on that arch in the past (not |
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| missing keywords)-- Therefore on an arch like x86/amd64 where more |
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| packages have been tested, there will be more to stabilize. (I realize |
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| that this doesn't really affect the initial claim any, just pointing |
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| out how the numbers are not that representative. |
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Except that the question is one of absolute tree bloat, and that's |
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exactly what the numbers I gave show. The whole "mips are slackers" |
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thing is blatantly untrue and a distraction from the real issue. |
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Ciaran McCreesh |
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Mail : ciaranm at ciaranm.org |
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Web : http://ciaranm.org/ |
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