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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Ciaran McCreesh |
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<ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:06:11 -0700 |
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> "Alec Warner" <antarus@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Stephen Bennett |
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>> <spbennett@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> > I would like to put forward the following suggestion for the |
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>> > Council's consideration: |
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>> > "While the current state of PMS is not perfect, it is a reasonably |
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>> > close approximation to existing and historical behaviour of EAPI 0. |
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>> > Given this, and that getting a perfect definition is not feasible |
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>> > on a timescale shorter than several years, it should be treated as |
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>> > a draft standard, and any deviations from it found in the gentoo |
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>> > tree or package managers should have a bug filed against either the |
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>> > deviator or PMS to resolve the differences. |
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>> Is this not already the status quo? Surely a number of bugs in the |
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>> tree have already been fixed in this manner. |
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> Currently some developers are quite happy to fix issues, whilst others |
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> prefer to yell "Portage is the only supported package manager and if it |
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> works for me with Portage you can go to hell"... |
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So assuming the council says we should fix all these issues (and in |
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most cases I would support that assertion) |
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who would fix them? The maintainer is obviously hostile and I doubt |
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the council is going to *force* them to accept said |
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patches. Is QA going to fix these bugs? |
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> Also, some developers seem quite happy making changes to Portage that |
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> break existing packages that rely upon behaviour as defined by PMS, |
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> under the assertion that "PMS is too much like a rulebook"... |
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Also some developers seem quite happy making changes to PMS that break |
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existing packages |
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that rely upon behavior as defined by Portage; under the assertion |
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that "Portage is a broken/buggy piece of software" |
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That being said you are free to chat to Zac about the changes; I doubt |
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you can compel him to comply with PMS |
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100% unless this is driven by developers themselves. He (not unlike |
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me) is kind of a pragmatic fellow. |
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-Alec |
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> -- |
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> Ciaran McCreesh |
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