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From: "Tiziano Müller" <dev-zero@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 07:22:14
Message-Id: 1369552925.8150.12.camel@storm
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) by "Anthony G. Basile"
1 Am Samstag, den 25.05.2013, 15:53 -0400 schrieb Anthony G. Basile:
2 > On 05/25/2013 02:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
3 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
4 > > Hash: SHA512
5 > >
6 > > On 05/25/2013 05:14 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
7 > >> But if a co-maintainer pushes through a change that I oppose, then
8 > >> working together becomes quite difficult. In this case I opted to
9 > >> give up maintainership.
10 > >>
11 > > Ben,
12 > >
13 > > We've been working together, in the same team(s), for more than 4
14 > > years and we never had a single problem in co-maintaining packages. I
15 > > would never expected you to make so much noise because I committed a
16 > > file (yes a file, *not* a patch) that changes absolutely *nothing* to
17 > > existing users but it helps all those users who want to use systemd.
18 > >
19 > > I am very disappointed and confused.
20 > >
21 > > You should have known me better by now.
22 > >
23 > > - --
24 > > Regards,
25 > > Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer
26 > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang
27 > >
28 >
29 > We are moving too quickly on bug #448882 ([Tracker] packages not
30 > providing systemd units). We should come to better consensus on systemd
31 > integration and we were getting there with the idea of INSTALL_MASK. I
32 > don't know that it is a working solution yet. I have to oppose adding
33 > unit files unless we have a way to opt out for reasons I gave earlier,
34 > regarding embedded systems where one needs to conserve space
35 > aggressively. And we may have found a way to do so without cluttering
36 > ebuilds with USE flags.
37
38 Even though I don't care about a couple of files more on my FS I would
39 prefer to find a solution with functions provided by PMS, not portage
40 alone.
41
42 >
43 > Can I ask the systemd people to design a working solution for opting
44 > out? I can't support this initiative without such a solution and I
45 > would be happy to work with the systemd people to reach it, ie I'll test.
46 >
47
48 Maybe we have to find a more generic solution for this, because there is
49 bug #235944 [1] which request extra config snippets for rsyslog added to
50 various packages. Or is this something different? If yes, how?
51
52 Best,
53 Tiziano
54
55
56 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235944

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