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On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:02 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: |
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> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 09:18:23 +0200 David Seifert wrote: |
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> > On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 08:59 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: |
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> > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:32:56 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > > > On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 09:53 -0400, Brian Evans wrote: |
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> > > > > On 6/9/2019 7:39 AM, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > > > > > +Tracking of user/group usage is done through dependencies. As |
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> > > > > > long |
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> > > > > > +as any installed package depends on a specific user/group |
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> > > > > > package, |
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> > > > > > +the respective user/group is assumed to be used. If no |
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> > > > > > package |
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> > > > > > +requiring the specific user/group is left, the package manager |
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> > > > > > +automatically prunes the package clearly indicating it is no |
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> > > > > > longer |
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> > > > > > +used. |
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> > > > > |
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> > > > > You cannot know when a name is "no longer used". An |
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> > > > > administrator could |
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> > > > > have adopted a username for other purposes. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > That's why we don't remove the actual user/group. However, this is |
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> > > > a valuable information to the administrator that no package is |
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> > > > using |
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> > > > the user/group in question. |
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> > > |
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> > > So how do you propose to clean them up? Or let user systems trash |
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> > > with unused uids/gids? The GLEP 81 only mensions some possible |
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> > > tooling for cleanup. Is there an implementation available? I don't |
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> > > see it within proposed patch sets. |
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> > > |
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> > > This GLEP should not be accepted unless all necessary tools are |
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> > > available including a cleanup tool. |
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> > > |
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> > > Best regards, |
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> > > Andrew Savchenko |
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> > |
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> > Strongly disagree: |
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> > |
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> > 1) User systems are already getting trashed. And apparently it's not a |
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> > critical thing that prevents users from using Gentoo in practice. |
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> > 2) A cleanup tool at best will only tell you which files you need to |
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> > check, randomly deleting files with orphaned uids/gids is not a good |
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> > idea. |
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> |
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> What will happen when some acct-*/* package will be unmerged? Will |
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> uid/gid record and/or its files be deteleted? |
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> |
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They will be marked as unused, locked from access and left in system |
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databases. It's both in the GLEP and in the implementation. All you |
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have to do is to read before complaining. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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