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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: dilfridge@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: Language of compiler messages etc. in build logs
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 21:41:23
Message-Id: 20130813233718.3aae9004@TOMWIJ-GENTOO
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] news item: Language of compiler messages etc. in build logs by "Andreas K. Huettel"
1 On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:59:49 +0200
2 "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > As of today, the emerge build logs do not use the system locale
5 > anymore but default to English. The intention behind this is to
6 > ease the work of bug-wranglers and package maintainers, who may
7 > have a hard time analyzing localized builds. This change only
8 > affects the emerge build logs, nothing else.
9 >
10 > If you really want to have e.g. localized compiler error messages
11 > in your builds, set LC_MESSAGES in your /etc/portage/make.conf.
12
13 Could you add something like "For more details w.r.t. localization, see
14 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/HOWTO" so people can look up
15 here how to set that particular setting and learn about other settings.
16
17 > Note that submitting localized build logs to the Gentoo Bugzilla
18 > is discouraged, and that such bug reports may be closed as INVALID
19 > by the package maintainer.
20
21 Would very much like to see this part dropped or a bit more polite;
22 even in another language, you often only need the error message and if
23 you use a translator like Google Translate you often get an error code
24 that closely resembles the English error.
25
26 As far as I am aware bug wranglers usually translate the error; and
27 only very rarely, it can't be translated or other parts of the build
28 logs are needed. I haven't heard of much problems with this yet...
29
30 If kept, word it something like "When filing bugs; if maintainers are
31 unable to translate the necessary information from the build log,
32 please attach an English build log [1] and then reopen the bug.
33
34 [1]: `LC_MESSAGES=C emerge ...`".
35
36 Thanks for the change and thank you very much in advance.
37
38 --
39 With kind regards,
40
41 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
42 Gentoo Developer
43
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