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From: likewhoa <weboperative@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Seeking questions for a user survey
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:20:11
Message-Id: dad717940801180820t24149f60h775ab0ff2ef24921@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Seeking questions for a user survey by George Prowse
1 I totally agree with not asking such personal questions which really
2 are not going to help the foundation, what we need to ask are
3 questions that relate to the distribution, it's developers & user
4 community as a whole. one question regarding children that I see as
5 being appropriate is:
6
7 Do children in your household use Gentoo?
8 > Yes
9 > No
10 > It's to complicated for them
11 > Prefer not to answer
12
13 Which games-* category need more additions?
14 > games-puzzles
15 > games-kids
16 > games-board
17 > games-fps
18 > games-strategy
19
20 Other questions regarding personal things, like age,spouses & income
21 are really for another type of survey, maybe a separate survey that
22 only developers will fill out, users will feel like you're asking to
23 much if asked those questions. We need to get questions that can help
24 identify what will improve Gentoo and it's inner structure.
25
26 Thanks,
27 Fernando a.k.a likewhoa
28
29 On Jan 18, 2008 7:41 AM, George Prowse <cokehabit@×××××.com> wrote:
30 >
31 > Steve Long wrote:
32 > > Joe Peterson wrote:
33 > >
34 > >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:56:36AM +0000, Steve Long wrote:
35 > >>> Ryan Hill wrote:
36 > >>>> I agree, though year of birth might be interesting. Income and children
37 > >>>> are a bit too private.
38 > >>>>
39 > >>> ++ in general although I do think parenthood (if responsible) is as
40 > >>> relevant as age. A 28 year old with a 5 year old kid has a lot to show a
41 > >>> 35 year old doctoral student with no kids, even if it's not all
42 > >>> technical. # of kids isn't relevant.
43 > >> Judging the maturity of users (or devs) by how many children they have
44 > >> (or indeed *if* they have children) is pretty questionable. I know
45 > >> people who have kids and are pretty irresponsible (that's not to say
46 > >> most are, but one does not guarantee the other). And I'd argue that
47 > >> someone with children does not necessarily have "a lot to show" someone
48 > >> without kids, unless it is the specific experience of childrearing.
49 > >>
50 > >> There are many people (myself and my wife included) who choose
51 > >> consciously not to have children. It is becoming more and more a
52 > >> *choice* people can legitimately make rather than just an assumed part
53 > >> of life. It is not selfish or immature, as some people think, so I'd be
54 > >> careful about implying that such a question gauges maturity.
55 > >>
56 > > My apologies if I caused you any offense, Joe. I fully agree that choosing
57 > > not to have children is just as mature as deciding to procreate, and more
58 > > mature than simply drifting into parenthood.
59 > >
60 > > I suppose what I am getting at is the idea that there are others in Gentoo
61 > > besides young single males. A responsible parent or a committed spouse has
62 > > a very different perspective to a teenager. Certainly my perspective now at
63 > > 37 is vastly different to when I was 18. Parenthood changed a great deal,
64 > > as did the earlier process of committing to marriage.
65 > >
66 > > Which is not to denigrate people who chose not to marry; my godchildren's
67 > > parents were dead-set about their commitment to each other without a piece
68 > > of paper. I guess it's the change between being an individual and feeling a
69 > > commitment to someone else. And yeah maybe it's not something we need to
70 > > ask anyone, but it is good to consider that there are diverse perspectives
71 > > within the group.
72 > >
73 > > In the same vein I asked on project wrt to number of female devs and was
74 > > told there are perhaps 3 or 4 iirc.
75 > >
76 > >
77 > For a survey of this kind I think questions about children etc are as
78 > inappropriate as ones about sexual orientation.
79 >
80 > Personally i'd stick to the fundamentals.
81 >
82 > George
83 >
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