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Hello, I am very glad to here that a complet networkless install via a |
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stage3 on the dvd without the installer would be possible again! |
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But why you write always something about the distfiles? Are there users |
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who want this? I really don't know. |
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I personally, think in the same way like you! |
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It is unecessary, because we got every week new ebuilds und useflags, if |
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someone would a total customized system he need to load alle sources |
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(stage1 or save it on the hdd before installation). |
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But to include the sources need simply too much space. I also think it |
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it enough to deliver only one stage3 (i686 on the x86-disk, x86-64 on |
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amd64-disk...). |
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Greetz |
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On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 08:47 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:38 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: |
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> > Dominique Michel wrote: |
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> > > When an user or a potential user read it and want to do a networkless install, |
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> > > it will just use the Live CD install, and just get in trouble. It is even worse |
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> > > when many Linux magazines will have this CD. And you cannot argue at it is just |
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> > > to use catalyst or to burn a CD from a stage 3, when the doc say "a bootable CD |
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> > > that contains everything you need to get Gentoo Linux up and running." |
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> > |
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> > That statement is still true. I have done 3 networkless installations |
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> > for this release, without a problem. I used the installer. Using it you |
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> > get your box up and running fast and convenient, so what exactly is the |
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> > problem? It's not like you can't get Gentoo running without a network |
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> > connection anymore. |
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> The problem is that it is a change, and our users resist changes. |
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> While I appreciate the input from our users, I have no intentions on |
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> "going backwards" to what we had before. I was planning on adding more |
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> content to the LiveDVD images next time around, such as more packages, |
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> and likely the stage3 tarball. Whether I include any distfiles or not |
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> is still up in the air, mostly due to the massive number of bugs that |
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> were caused every single release due to people using the provided |
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> distfiles/packages incorrectly. We simply don't have enough manpower to |
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> test every single possible combination of USE and packages during the |
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> release cycle and our calls for testing usually go mostly unanswered. |
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> We saw a definite increase in the number of developers helping with |
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> testing this past release, but we still need more. |
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> At any rate, the next release will allow a user to *very* easily to |
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> networkless installs *without* requiring them use the installer itself. |
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> I will have this documented by that time, so there's no need to fret |
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> over it. |
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