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On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:57:32 +0200 |
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Thomas Kahle <tomka@g.o> wrote: |
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> I was mentored on the QA issues and have come to 'this attitude' |
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> myself. Take sci-mathematics/singular: Upstream is genuinely not |
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> interested in supporting distriutions or their petty QA unless |
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> you can prove them that there is a problem that massively hurts |
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> them. Fixing compatibility with user specified LDFLAGS? They'll |
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> laugh at you. Their attitude is a result of years and years of |
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> struggling with too little manpower themselves. They can hardly |
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> keep up with scientific developments. |
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> My personal attitude: It is just not worth the effort to rewrite |
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> their build systems for the ~10 users out there. I have better |
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> things to do with my time and I think that these packages can |
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> live forever in the overlay and that is completely OK this way. |
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Yeah, it behaves like a trade-off in manpower; the type of QA brought |
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up here is an enhancement, where it would be nice if someone could make |
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the *FLAGS, CC, LD, ... supported but definitely not a requirement. |
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This is not a reason to keep it in an overlay (or block stabilization). |
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> I think that's a different point. I've also met people who just |
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> don't want to become developers because their "it's not worth my |
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> time" boundary is on the other side of the quizzes. So one could |
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> say yes, contributing to overlays is convenient enough to never |
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> do quizzes. The arguments I have heard are not about bugzilla |
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> workflow. They are: I don't get that much more from being a full |
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> dev, so I don't bother taking the quizzes. |
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Yes; becoming a full Gentoo Developer can help to go across certain |
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restrictions, as well as can become more handy if you do work all over |
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the place in the Portage tree. Other than that I think there is a lot |
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you can get accomplished as an user; that is, if there is enough |
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manpower to make those accomplishments of the users have an effect: |
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https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs |
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> Here's a positive thing: There are many ways to contribute, even |
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> without taking lenghty quizzes :) |
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Indeed, here is a lengthy summary that is probably not complete: |
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https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Contributing_to_Gentoo |
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With kind regards, |
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Tom Wijsman (TomWij) |
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Gentoo Developer |
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E-mail address : TomWij@g.o |
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