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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 12:57:46
Message-Id: 200401061357.40450.pauldv@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds by Robert Cole
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4 On Tuesday 06 January 2004 09:17, Robert Cole wrote:
5 > But I want to know if the brick wall that others have hit is still
6 > there or not. There's been a bit o conflict in teh past where gentoo
7 > will call for maintainers for certain projects yet previously slapped
8 > down up and coming devs that want to maintain a different project. Why
9 > would they volunteer for the requested project after being hammered
10 > previously even if they have the skill to do the requested one? Would
11 > you? Who would? From my understanding the devs are overwhelmed right
12 > now with maintaining the current tree and need more people to take on
13 > maintaining packages. The egos need to go by by and just do a quick
14 > check to see if the ebuild and the dev have followed policy and mark
15 > the thing ~x86 or whatever arch it is and toss it out. If it floats
16 > then great they've proven themselves. If it sinks then a bit more
17 > education is in order, pull the package and politely ask the new dev
18 > to find and fix the problem and describe clearly what the problem was
19 > and what they did to fix it and if it apears they understand the
20 > problem and had a good solution toss it back in the tree to go again.
21 > It would likely float the second time.
22
23 There is unfortunately a limit on the amount of devs that we can handle.
24 We are still busy putting more structure in the gentoo organization, but
25 we would certainly have a problem if the amount of developers increased
26 drastically.
27
28 > I'm not suggesting giving someone new with no established background
29 > any sort of access. What I'm suggesting is basically what Allen spoke
30 > of in just encouraging more contributions but accepting ebuilds faster
31 > and the person with the proper access toss it in the tree.
32
33 Like said before, the issue is not the initial ebuild. It is the
34 maintenance, including fixing bug reports and new versions. At the
35 moment there are allready too many packages in the tree that are not
36 actually maintained. This is partly due to the fact that those packages
37 are not easy to identify, and partly because it are just low-profile
38 packages. But that does not mean that we want more of those packages.
39 However when an ebuild gets committed without someone maintaining it
40 that is exactly what happens. If there are too many of those orphan
41 ebuilds it will reflect on the distribution (most orphan ebuilds have
42 issues because of not being maintained)
43
44 Paul
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