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From: Peter <pete4abw@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:24:41
Message-Id: pan.2006.06.13.18.14.23.970226@comcast.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork. by Henrik Brix Andersen
1 On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:54:47 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
2
3 > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 01:29:55PM -0400, Peter wrote: [snip]
4 >> This kernel source will not cause Armageddon to arrive, cause smoke to
5 >> issue from your power supply, nor interfere with other ebuilds.
6 >
7 > That's funny. Did you just claim that a sys-kernel/*-sources ebuild with
8 > the patch-sets listed below would have no possibility of interfering with
9 > other ebuilds? If so, you've just proven my point that many users wont be
10 > able to judge how ebuilds from overlays may affect the stable tree.
11 >
12
13 I did. Sources don't affect anything. The ck-sources are in the tree, and
14 there is dire warning associated with them. Only the -mm sources have any
15 sort of warning. If a user CHOOSES to use a hacked up kernel, then they
16 obviously choose to. Just like, if a user chooses to try out reiserfs-4,
17 they get what they pay for. Sources don't affect anything.
18
19
20 > "Features
21 > -ck(s) Con Kolivas Patchset, (server version available as option) -ide
22 > libATA/ide updates, Alsa updates and fixes, Dothan Speedstep, Pentium M
23 > undervolt, IBM ACPI fan control, Suspend2, vesafb-tng, reiser4, unionfs
24 > squashfs, realtime-lsm, fbsplash, configurable mouse polling support,
25 > custom dsdt, Layer7, various fixes and updates." [1]
26 >
27 >> Am I being to simplistic or naive?
28 >
29 > Both, it seems.
30 >
31 > Regards,
32 > Brix
33 >
34 > [1]: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103354#c51
35
36 And I think these are worthwhile features. Some, actually are part of the
37 gentoo-base and gentoo-extra patches (see the excludes list). It also
38 includes spocks vesa-tng and fbsplash.
39
40 Look, you can't micro-control all aspects of a user's computing
41 experience. If someone downloads tmpwatch and mistakenly puts / in the
42 list of directories to prune, what will you do? Put tmpwatch into
43 package.mask because it MIGHT be misued? Or, will you package.mask
44 vixie.cron because someone may not be capable of writing a bash script?
45
46 Honestly, I do not see the difference, AND because the kernel is
47 experimental (or, at least I call it experimental), and widely followed, I
48 think Sunrise is ideal for it. JM2C.
49
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51 Peter
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