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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:04:16
Message-Id: 20120720210244.17a7c071@googlemail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass by Alexandre Rostovtsev
1 On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:48:34 -0400
2 Alexandre Rostovtsev <tetromino@g.o> wrote:
3 > On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 20:17 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
4 > > On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:15:31 -0400
5 > > Alexandre Rostovtsev <tetromino@g.o> wrote:
6 > > > > That's sensitive to old versions ebuilds being removed from the
7 > > > > tree, so it's utterly unworkable.
8 > > >
9 > > > I do not see why you think it's unworkable. Ebuilds already have
10 > > > dependencies that can be broken by removing an old version; if
11 > > > wombat depends on foo[bar], and you removed the only version of
12 > > > foo that had bar in IUSE, you broke wombat. Adding special
13 > > > LINGUAS handling would not change the fact that before deleting
14 > > > an ebuild, you need to verify that you did not render other
15 > > > ebuilds' dependencies unsatisfiable.
16 > >
17 > > That's not how undefaulted use dependencies work. If wombat depends
18 > > upon foo[bar], it is an error if there is *any* version of foo
19 > > *ever* that doesn't have bar in IUSE_EFFECTIVE.
20 >
21 > Very odd; AFAICT neither portage nor repoman treats that situation as
22 > an error. I am guessing that this is another case where paludis does
23 > things differently?
24
25 Paludis yells. Portage silently ignores the error and does something
26 unexpected. The spec is clear that it is an error, though.
27
28 > Be that as it may, even with paludis, the foo maintainer could easily
29 > break wombat if wombat depended on foo:bar, and the last ebuild
30 > matching foo:bar got removed; or on foo[bar,baz], and the only
31 > remaining versions of foo in the tree have REQUIRED_USE="^^ ( bar baz
32 > )"; or on foo[bar], when the only remaining versions of foo in the
33 > tree have bar disabled via profiles/base/package.use.mask.
34
35 Which is why it's policy that you check every dependent before making
36 changes to a package. You *do* follow that policy, and not just assume
37 that repoman passing means it's fine, right?
38
39 --
40 Ciaran McCreesh

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass Alexandre Rostovtsev <tetromino@g.o>