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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Of Mips and Devs [Was: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January]
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:43:30
Message-Id: b41005390801102343o2604aeceh5546e1141d04f4e2@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Of Mips and Devs [Was: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January] by Stuart Longland
1 Continuing on a side angle. I have a 300mhz Octane I'll ship to
2 someone in the US if they need more mips hardware. If you ask nice I
3 might even pay for the shipping. I haven't booted it in ages but it
4 used to work ;)
5
6 -Alec
7
8 On 1/10/08, Stuart Longland <redhatter@g.o> wrote:
9 > Kumba wrote:
10 > > Mike Frysinger wrote:
11 > >>
12 > >> that certainly sounds reasonable to me. if the stable cant be
13 > >> maintained, let the common workflow of developers transition it back
14 > >> to ~arch until someone has the time to keep arch usable. changing
15 > >> profiles.desc accordingly should be done ahead of time. perhaps a new
16 > >> category for profiles.desc ? "exp" for such ports ? i could see all
17 > >> *-fbsd ports being moved there. tweak repoman to be less verbose
18 > >> about dep issues for such profiles and we're set.
19 > >
20 > > Sounds like a plan. 'exp' would be the 'status' field? I need to
21 > > remove 2006.1, as that profile has been a big holdup due to it not being
22 > > glibc-2.4 friendly (or one of the newer glibcs back in that era; I
23 > > forget). Even pondering just outright booting 2007.0, as I've been
24 > > using 2007.1-dev since I commited it long ago, and haven't had an issue
25 > > with it really. I can then put 2008.0-dev together and use it as a
26 > > launch platform for ~arch migration.
27 >
28 > This is fine by me too. At the moment, my 2007.1 stages are built with
29 > stable keywords in mind, but that's something the user can easily fix. ;-)
30 >
31 > >> i see dropping keywords as a very last resort. getting a port *back*
32 > >> into the tree is a *tremendous* amount of work (i went through it and
33 > >> it was hell), while keeping ~arch alive is a sliver of effort and
34 > >> generally not a blocker for package maintainers.
35 > >
36 > > Aye, I believe that was sh's removal and subsequent re-add?
37 > >
38 > > Part of the hangup lately has been our kernel support. O2 systems are
39 > > dead in the water in 2.6.24, and only work in 2.6.23 if you apply a hack
40 > > to serial_core (a hack that only masks a problem rather than fixes it).
41 > > Octane's I can still forward port, but with the upstream author having
42 > > moved onto other interests, if something breaks badly enough from one
43 > > version to the next, then I run the risk of getting stuck on a
44 > > particular version permanently.
45 >
46 > Lately, I've been slacking for the last few weeks... no excuses... I've
47 > been concentrating on other projects and interests.
48 >
49 > Part of this is that I've been trying to get µClibc stages going so we
50 > can build some newer netboot images (at this point, I'm considering
51 > doing a few bloated ones based on glibc) but thus far, I haven't been
52 > successful. I haven't bothered since my trip down to Gibraltar Ranges
53 > National Park.
54 >
55 > I've got one of the Lemote boxes building a userland that'll hopefully
56 > become a LiveUSB image that'll allow a user to try out Gentoo on one of
57 > these systems, and install it (by hand... although ultimately having the
58 > Gentoo Installer would be good too). At last check, it was building KDE
59 > 3.5.8. Presently, the only way to install Gentoo, is to use my
60 > precompiled kernel and stage3 tarball to boot the box using
61 > Root-over-NFS, so I'd like to get this going properly soon.
62 >
63 > My TODO list at present (no specific order):
64 > o Build a new netboot image for Cobalt
65 > o Rebuild my Qube2 using the 2007.1 stage3
66 > o Build boot media for Lemote Fulong
67 > o Test X11-related patches for Fulong on other MIPS systems to make sure
68 > they don't break anything (at some point, I'd like to see these
69 > systems supported out-of-the-box by Gentoo)
70 > o Check the documentation is still accurate
71 > o Clean up the bugzilla list
72 >
73 > Kumba,
74 > Since you're otherwise busy with other things, did you want me to build
75 > some new big-endian stages based on the 2007.1-dev profile? If so,
76 > could I get access to the SWARM? (I could do it on my O2, but I think
77 > the SWARM will easily outperform it.)
78 > --
79 > Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter) .'''.
80 > Gentoo Linux/MIPS Cobalt and Docs Developer '.'` :
81 > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .'.'
82 > http://dev.gentoo.org/~redhatter :.'
83 >
84 > I haven't lost my mind...
85 > ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.
86 >
87 >
88 >
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