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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: firefox gtk3 status, danger of gtk2 in-tree deprecation?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 02:03:23
Message-Id: pan$3d134$667a5077$c7995cf3$a5fbbef@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: firefox gtk3 status, danger of gtk2 in-tree deprecation? by Ian Stakenvicius
1 Ian Stakenvicius posted on Wed, 09 Sep 2015 11:32:23 -0400 as excerpted:
2
3 > Firefox's use of gtk3 actually still requires gtk2, so gtk2 won't be
4 > deprecated (at least not any time soon).
5
6 I was entirely unaware of that. Thanks. It changes the picture
7 dramatically.
8
9 > Also, FYI, since gtk2 will (for the forseeable future) always be
10 > required by the firefox core, we are going to add a gtk3 flag to provide
11 > end-user control of building the frontend against gtk3 or not.
12 >
13 > I don't think deprecation of gtk2 is anything we are going to need to
14 > worry about any time soon.
15
16 Thanks. As I said, firefox-core still requiring gtk2 changes the picture
17 dramatically, both for gentoo, and as part of pan upstream, for it as
18 well.
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20 FWIW, there's still some of us that remember the gtk1 based xmms with
21 fondness for its clean just-what-we-need interface and lack of extraneous
22 deps, while at the same time providing fancy visualization, etc.
23 Similarly, there's still those trying to use the kde-sunset overlay for a
24 kde3 app or two. Personally, I try to be on the (moderately) leading
25 edge rather than the trailing and was well off of both of these before
26 they disappeared from the tree, but that's why I'm asking these sorts of
27 questions (and why I follow this list, as well), giving me as long as
28 possible to prepare and try to find suitable replacements before I'm
29 under the gun.
30
31 As for pan upstream, I'm on record on the pan lists as saying that until
32 firefox switches to gtk3, there's not a lot to worry about regarding gtk2,
33 since firefox really is the big gtk2 elephant in the room and practically
34 speaking, gtk2 isn't going anywhere until firefox does, either by
35 switching to something else, or by becoming irrelevant.
36
37 With mentions of gtk3 based firefox now in distros and that being my
38 trigger of record, I was starting to worry about pan on gtk3. But if
39 firefox still requires gtk2 at its core, the trigger doesn't look to have
40 actually been pulled, after all. That really /does/ change the picture,
41 so...
42
43 Thanks again! =:^)
44
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