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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: use.force support
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:08:45
Message-Id: pan.2005.06.15.09.03.21.478@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support by Donnie Berkholz
1 Donnie Berkholz posted <42AF9765.8090800@g.o>, excerpted below, on
2 Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:50:13 -0700:
3
4 > Sven Wegener wrote:
5 >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:56:43PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote:
6 >>
7 >>>I'm in favor of this. Would you mind calling it package.autouse,
8 >>>package.use.auto or are you set on .force?
9 >>
10 >> As Mike already wrote those names are too confusing with the automatic
11 >> activated USE flags. We already had some suggestions in this thread, but
12 >> none of them actually matched the purpose of the file. At least in my
13 >> opinion. use.force matches it best, but the "force" part is a quite hard
14 >> term. How about use.profile? Because these USE flags are activated or
15 >> needed by the profile.
16 >
17 > How about use.required, since they're required by the profile?
18
19 Watching the debate so far, I'd say use.lock sounds simplest and most
20 descriptive to me, with use.required a close second, only because of the
21 longer extension (.lock is simpler/shorter than .required).
22
23 This from the perspective of one who regularly finds himself posting
24 explanations of various portage workings, both on the amd64 list, and on
25 my ISP's own list (there's a guy who's just trying out Gentoo, coming from
26 FreeBSD -- he has some dev experience on FBSD, so he's potentially an
27 asset to both the FreeBSD herd and the amd64 arch, some time down the
28 road, tho he's so far not seemed to interested in the Gentoo on FBSD
29 stuff). From an explainer's perspective, I agree that .force sounds a bit
30 harsh, but use.lock is a simple concept to explain, as is use.required,
31 tho the .required disturbs my aesthetic sense simply because it's too long
32 to be "short and simple".
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36 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
37 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in
38 http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: use.force support Georgi Georgiev <chutz@×××.net>