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From: Philippe Namias <pn@××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] power outage
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:52:15
Message-Id: 01032117562302.31817@cerberus
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] power outage by drobbins@gentoo.org
1 On Wednesday 21 March 2001 17:26, you wrote:
2 > On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 01:57:31PM +0100, Philippe Namias wrote:
3 > > Here in France we don't have any electricity/gas problem as it's a state
4 > > company. They have the monopole so there is no choice here but i only
5 > > paid 42$ by month for electricity.
6 >
7 > In principle and practice, there is nothing wrong with electricity being
8 > provided by private companies.
9
10 I agree with you the principe of concurrency is good for the market/consummer
11 so i hope they will be soon other electricity company in France .
12 But what i don't understand it's why the electricity company didn't ring the
13 bell sooner.
14 I think that this kind of company are able to predict in a certain way the
15 volume of electricity needed , so why they don't alert the State Of
16 California of this.
17 Because now if they are allowed (in Calofornia or any state close to) to
18 build a power plant it will take years to build.
19 So i think that your are just at the beginning of the problem?
20
21 PS: If you want candle i can send you:)
22
23
24 > The problem in California was due to poor
25 > government regulations. Here's my understanding of what went wrong:
26 >
27 > The state of California passed a law that the electric companies can charge
28 > no more than X dollars per kW (no exceptions). Of course, this seems like
29 > a good idea because it appears to protect consumers. But then, the cost of
30 > *producing* the electricity rose to above this amount. This happened
31 > because it is nearly impossible to build a new power plant in California
32 > due to environmental regulations. So even though California uses more
33 > power every year, they were unable to expand their production capacity to
34 > meet demand. It gets worse.
35 >
36 > Due to the price limit on electricity, the utilities couldn't pass the
37 > additional expense to the Californian consumer. By law, they had to charge
38 > X dollars per kW, which meant that they were *losing* money. So, they
39 > tried to borrow money to to maintain their power supplies and even attempt
40 > to build new ones, but no one would lend them money (since the loan people
41 > knew that the utilities were in a no-win situation). So, by law,
42 > California was forced to buy tons of gas and electricity from neighboring
43 > states, dramatically raising the cost of electricity and gas in the
44 > southwest.
45 >
46 > Again, there's no problem with private utilities. Competition will keep
47 > the price low, usually much lower than government-run utilities. The
48 > problem is when the government sets up impossible-to-follow rules for the
49 > utilities without understanding the consequences. Then, the utilties are
50 > forced to do stupid things (by law) and things like this happen.
51 >
52 > It's as if I asked you to create new ebuilds, but I insisted that you
53 > couldn't use your hands because you might get a repetive stress injury. To
54 > the uninformed, this sounds like a good rule (protecting you from harm),
55 > but in practice it means you need to type with your toes!
56 >
57 > Best Regards,

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