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From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:26:46
Message-Id: 15211046.x6pysY7T2s@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer? by hasufell
1 On Saturday 18 April 2015 11:15:56 hasufell wrote:
2 > On 04/17/2015 07:15 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
3 > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alexander Berntsen
4 > >
5 > > <bernalex@g.o> wrote:
6 > >> On 17/04/15 16:33, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
7 > >>> The problem is double effort: previously one developer effort was
8 > >>> needed, now effort is doubled at least
9 > >>
10 > >> You have correctly identified the problem; in order to do things
11 > >> properly one must do things properly, which is more difficult than not
12 > >> doing things properly.
13 > >
14 > > "Properly" is just a matter of requirements. Gentoo has 18k packages
15 > > right now. In my general experience, they install fine maybe 95% of
16 > > the time.
17 >
18 > Can you back up your "general experience" with a tinderbox log? In
19 > addition, you are decreasing "QA" to "compiles". That's not the definition.
20 >
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22 Out of all the packages that are visible (i.e. not masked, hidden by
23 uninstallable dependencies, or hidden by useflag requiremenst)
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25 For amd64 I see a build failure rate of ~2%, iow. out of ~10k packages that
26 are buildable with a standard profile about 200 fail. (Last run done about half
27 a year ago, it's slowly improved since I started in 2006)
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29 So the 95% buildable sounds like a very pessimistic estimate to me.
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31 For x86 the data looks pretty much the same, I think marginally worse.