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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@×××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:08:41
Message-Id: 20070303170526.39754de1@snowdrop
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting by Jason Stubbs
1 On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 01:51:39 +0900 Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@g.o>
2 wrote:
3 > There were two separate specifications - glep42 and multiple
4 > repositories - that should have been discussed seperately. On a
5 > seperate thread, Marius said something to the effect of "specs are
6 > much easier to extend than to alter". Having read that, I think we
7 > were both wrong - specification of a repository should probably have
8 > been left out completely until repositories had been hashed out.
9
10 Which is what I was pushing for all along. I was trying to leave
11 multiple repositories entirely out of it -- despite Paludis making use
12 of them -- because the GLEP had nothing to do with multiple
13 repositories.
14
15 > To sidetrack just a little more, I think this illustrates one of the
16 > reasons why having PMS (aka EAPI-0 spec) completed is so important.
17 > Not only would it allow for Gentoo package manager(s) to be
18 > interchanged/replaced, it would provide a incontrovertible context
19 > for discussion of new features.
20
21 There aren't going to be any new features in PMS. The only package
22 manager changes that we want to come about as a result of it are bug
23 fixes.
24
25 Incidentally... Side note on PMS vs EAPI-0: the way PMS is written,
26 it's deliberately very easy to integrate EAPI-1, EAPI-2 or whatever
27 into the document. Consider PMS to be a document that is capable of
28 holding all EAPIs, with EAPI-0 being the only one that's actually there
29 for now. Once EAPI-1 is agreed upon, it can be added to PMS rather than
30 having to be a whole new document.
31
32 > This is really irrelevant. It's not matter of "if" he gets access but
33 > only as to "when". After the initial work is done and the team is
34 > ready to go public all his "noise" will come out. I can only think of
35 > two choices here: 1) whether you and he both continue to be visceral
36 > or instead try to build a good working relationship; and
37 > 2) whether you discuess any issues with the spec now or when it goes
38 > public.
39
40 That's a fairly big difference. If it's later on, there won't be lots
41 of holes that we know are there that he can use as some kind of twisted
42 proof that PMS sucks.
43
44 --
45 Ciaran McCreesh
46 Mail : ciaranm at ciaranm.org
47 Web : http://ciaranm.org/
48 Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting Josh Saddler <nightmorph@g.o>