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R Hill posted <di7edr$otf$1@×××××××××.org>, excerpted below, on Fri, 07 |
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Oct 2005 21:28:58 -0600: |
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> Dan Meltzer wrote: |
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>> |
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>> Tonight, hanging out in #gentoo, I observed a huge amount of incorrect |
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>> information once again.. tonight about profiles, cascading and all |
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>> that jazz, which to be honest is fairly undocumented. I decided to |
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>> give a miniclass on how it worked. ferringb and antarus sat in, and |
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>> it was just an off the cuff information/QA session. |
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>> |
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>> Okay, so that worked, but then I got to thinking, why not do these |
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>> fairly regularly? [] |
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>> |
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>> Developer A decides to speak about a specific aspect of portage, the |
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>> discussion is announced on lists and in gwn a week or so in advance. |
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>> The discussion could take place in a channel such as #gentoo-class, |
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>> and logged. The developer would cover it as he saw fit, and then have |
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>> a Q/A period after. The entire class is logged, and added to the |
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>> website on a publically accessible page. If the docs team thinks its |
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>> a useful subject, they could translate into a more formal page, and |
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>> use the logs for reference, if not, it would still be availible |
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>> information to anyone wishing to read it. |
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>> |
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>> My thoughts are this would be best suited to Gentoo-specific things, |
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>> portage, gentoo's infrastructure, baselayout, [but it could be on |
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>> anything a dev wished]. |
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> |
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> I think quick-basics tutorials like this would be a great addition to |
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> GWN, but if the IRC Q&A format works then I say go for it. |
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What about asking in GWN for classes the users would like? Start a |
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question submission que, then have the GWN editors select the common ones |
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they like and ask appropriate devs if they want to do a presentation. |
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Depending on interest, a few weeks after the original request for class |
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requests, they could start, once a week or once a month. Announce the |
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subject a week ahead, then if a dev wants to have the original class in |
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IRC, do so, or he can just create a presentation to be featured in GWN. |
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If it's originally on IRC, the (cleaned up/edited) log could be featured |
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in GWN that way as well. |
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In either case, the initial class/tutorial would be mostly |
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non-interactive, as presented in the GWN writeup. However, when |
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presented, an announcement would be made as to a date/time for a Q/A |
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session on IRC, a few days later. Questions could be submitted thru a |
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link (email or whatever) for a couple days after the GWN presentation as |
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well, with selected submissions covered in the IRC session as well. Then |
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the IRC session would be posted the following week. (Thus, original |
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tutorial/presentation one week, a couple days for Q submissions b4 the |
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scheduled IRC Q/A session (and a day or two to go over them, if desired, |
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depending on how the scheduling and deadlines are worked out), then a |
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couple days to clean the log from it up and address any other submitted |
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questions if desired, for the GWN followup coverage a week after the |
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initial presentation.) |
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This would cover the timing issue of a scheduled IRC session, plus have |
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the advantage of multi-format, for those who don't do IRC, plus give folks |
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a couple days to come up with questions after the original presentation. |
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The initial presentation probably wouldn't need IRC's interactivity |
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anyway, but it would preserve that element in the QA session. Coverage |
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would be far wider as well, given the GWN coverage in all its forms (LWN |
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coverage, Gentoo site front page billing, the mailing list, in addition to |
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any proposed "class" site). |
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Subject known ahead, original lecture, Q/A and interactive lab session |
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a few days later, review and followup a few days after that at the next |
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lecture period, similar to a Uni class with a weekly lecture and separate |
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lab, except that it would bypass the scheduling difficulties of an global |
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internet-wide "university". |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in |
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http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html |
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