[gentoo-dev] Re: Categories for GUI stuff x11 and wayland

[Duncan]

Kent Fredric posted on Mon, 04 Sep 2017 17:48:40 +1200 as excerpted:

> Right, there's going to be plenty of examples of things that aren't
> portable, and will need to stay in perpetuity in x11-* . x11-drivers
> are probably a good example. Though I'm in no hurry to deprecate X11,
> wayland will take even longer than systemd for me to go "Ok, yes, now
> we should switch everyone to this"

Indeed.  Even after the general gui-provider can be assumed to be wayland 
in much the same was as it has been X for decades now, rootless/nested X 
will be around for many years/decades, for much the same reason that I'm 
still using dosbox to effectively provide "nested DOS" for that single 
legacy/proprietary game[1] I still play somewhat frequently.  Some 
things, in particular X-based proprietary apps such as but not limited to 
games, are unlikely to ever be ported, so those continuing to find a use 
for them will continue to have a use for X, almost certainly eventually 
in nested and ultimately emulated form, much as I do with that game and 
dosbox.

> Yeah. At this point there's not much value in a switch. And I'm not
> entirely happy with either "gui-" or "desktop-". "x11-" is, for all its
> warts, more useful than either of those still.
>
> I'm tempted to suggest something like "ux-", which conceptually
> encompasses GUI/UI/Display concerns, and having an "x" gives a nod to
> its legacy as being "x" without it being part of the definition :)

I actually really like the ux-* idea.  So much so I wish I'd thought of 
it. =:^)  It doesn't come across as nearly as "tired and worn out" as 
"gui-*" does, here (tho I already see a reply from someone else with the 
opposite reaction, favoring desktop-* over ux-*).

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[1] Dosbox game: Master of Orion, original, (c) 1993 updated copy.

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