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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [half-PROCTORS] Re: Bye Gentoo!
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 18:34:25
Message-Id: pan.2007.05.31.18.28.14@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [half-PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo! by Wernfried Haas
1 Wernfried Haas <amne@g.o> posted
2 20070531152120.GC12074@×××××××××.rechner, excerpted below, on Thu, 31 May
3 2007 17:21:20 +0200:
4
5 > Saying "one of the few remaining sane" people is a generally
6 > negative statement that is judgemental towards the whole community,
7 > which is what the the CoC/proctors are supposed to proactively
8 > discourage.
9
10 Please don't take this wrong, but I'm guessing you aren't a native
11 English speaker and thus didn't realize the common turn of phrase.
12 Alluding to "this crazy world" or "this insane world" is a common way in
13 English of expressing empathy with the one you are replying to. The
14 immediate corollary then is that sane people would recognize the insanity
15 of it all, too bad there's so few of those left now days.
16
17 It's a turn of phrase. It doesn't have to make exact literal sense, but
18 hopefully that helps.
19
20 Rewording Ciaranm's reply, therefore, it can be read roughly as:
21
22 "It's a crazy world we live in that you find it necessary to leave, but
23 sometimes life just doesn't make sense, and you /do/ have to get a new
24 perspective on things, a change of scene, in ordered just to maintain
25 your sanity." The reference to a "few" then would be to the (seemingly)
26 few still around, who've had enough experience to recognize how crazy it
27 can get, at times, and they are contrasted against the insanity of the
28 system that so many have left, that is, against the system itself, not
29 against the other devs, who are in fact implied to be on their way toward
30 the same "seen it all and yes, it can be insane, sometimes" experience.
31
32 Again, I recognize that's exactly the literal meaning of the words when
33 strung together, but that's because the thought is now more than the sum
34 of its parts, having accumulated cultural meaning over the passage of
35 time.
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37 Hopefully, that explains a bit why so many native English speakers seem
38 shocked at the offense you took. Next time, perhaps the reference will
39 make better sense. =8^)
40
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