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Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 04:10 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: |
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>>> There are *many* applications in the tree that do not use ALSA, but work |
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>>> only via the OSS emulation. Removing this is a bad idea and it would |
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>>> definitely be blocked by the games team. Probably half of the packages |
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>>> that I maintain require OSS capabilities. |
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>> but they do not require an oss use flag. The point of removing this flag is |
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>> to remove "optional" oss support. |
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> Umm... you don't know what you're talking about. The "optional" OSS |
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> support is in ALSA. The packages have required OSS for sound support. |
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>> Have a look at http://gentoo-portage.com/Search?search=&use=oss for the |
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>> useage of this flag. |
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> I know what the flag is used for, and I'm not removing it. |
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>> And for your games argument. The games ebuilds from the above list I have |
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>> looked at, provide both the "alsa" and the "oss" use flag, as do most |
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>> really. |
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> Do you even know what you're talking about? Have you tried Quake 3? |
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> Enemy Territory? Have you noticed that they don't have sound, at all, |
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> without OSS emulation? You do know how OSS emulation is turned on, |
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> correct? |
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> Please do me a favor and quit wasting my time and yours trying to tell |
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> me what the packages that I maintain support. |
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>> It is not about removing OSS emulation, it is about removing duplicated |
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>> backends. |
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> You're simply wrong. |
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>>> So does anyone have any objections to the others being removed? |
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>>> (apm imlib mikmod motif xmms) |
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>> foomaticdb is missing here, I hope you will not forget it |
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> It isn't the the desktop profile. It was in the 2006.1 profile, which |
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> is desktop's parent. |
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I think this is a perfect time to point out the past discussions about |
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trying to be polite to fellow developers and the community at large. |
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There's no reason to try to constantly point out "you're an idiot and |
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I'm so great. I wield the power!" |
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Stefan made suggestions in good intentions. Lot's of us have the same |
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suggestions, however he actually had the initiative to bring them up and |
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offer to help fix them based on what was decided upon. Every step along |
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the way you've tried to bash him and highlight your greatness. Get down |
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off your pedestal... we're all developers here. All contributing to the |
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greater good. Accept the help and move on. |
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Doug Goldstein <cardoe@g.o> |
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http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ |
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