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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 02:15:28
Message-Id: CAGfcS_m-+DEWbRMhz8Ju8LK9b1BjAunnYgK178CnMWUqmjvv1A@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration by Patrick Lauer
1 On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote:
2 > In the long run I am considering just creating my own clone of all
3 > infrastructure bits so I can fix things
4
5 I just wanted to comment that things like this should never be viewed
6 as a bad thing. Many contributions to Gentoo arose because somebody
7 basically took something they saw and made an unofficial fork they
8 improved upon. That may or may not have later become official, but it
9 is often beneficial all the same.
10
11 I'd just suggest that anybody doing this document what they do and
12 publish their sources, so that others can do the same more easily.
13
14 My ideal state for Gentoo would be one where very little of what we do
15 is centrally housed at all, and infra is just a bunch of servers we
16 tend to use as a matter of convention, but anybody can clone one at
17 any time and set up their own. Federated authentication could let
18 people login to various services without having to actually have
19 access to anything sensitive. This would make it much easier for
20 anybody to offer new services, or to offer patches to infra, and then
21 infra could perhaps be more in the role of a trusted gatekeeper and
22 spend less time having to implement every little thing.
23
24 That said, it is something that would need to be worked towards. My
25 understanding is that infra is already trying to keep the sensitive
26 stuff separate from the mundane in their newer work, but I'm sure they
27 have a ton of old stuff that hasn't been migrated in this fashion. As
28 with many teams they're probably a bit overloaded, so a big question
29 is how to make it happen without just throwing complaints on the folks
30 who are trying their best to keep it all going.
31
32 --
33 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se>