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ons 2001-12-26 klockan 03.44 skrev Daniel Robbins: |
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> Hallski, how many times in the past have I said "I'm giving Hallski the final |
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> decision on this one"? I hope you'll agree it's been quite a few times. In |
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> these times, the final decision has been given to you because I trust your |
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> expertise. You have been given authority over the desktop aspects of Gentoo |
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> Linux, but branching CVS is something that affects more than just Desktop |
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> developers. You should not be surprised that, in this particular case, I |
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> exerted my authority and made this decision. It's certainly within my "job |
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> description" to make this decision. And not to be rude, but whether or not to |
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> branch CVS is really not your decision. |
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I've never claimed branching the CVS is my decision. I posted is as a |
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solution to this problem. Wether putting beta KDE packages in Portage |
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should be my descision (if I've not been incorrectly informed about my |
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role in Gentoo). Since in the end I'm responsible for desktop issues, |
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even though Dan is currently responsible for KDE stuff. |
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> > Also, the "rm -rf /" example misses the point. The point is that if we have |
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> > lots of beta-stuff in Portage (available to the users) we'll end up spending |
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> > loads of hours supporting it (no matter how many signs of "Unsupported" we |
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> > write). |
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> The "rm -rf /" example is exactly the point. Inform the user, and let *them* |
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> make an *educated* decision. I trust the Gentoo Linux user base; we're not |
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> designing a distribution for monkeys here. Taking control away from users is |
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> really not part of the Gentoo Linux philosophy. |
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I'm all for users being able to try out new stuff. And what I meant |
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about it's not the point is that if the user does "rm -rf /" he won't |
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come to us for support. If a user (after installing KDE3) notices bad |
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behaviour in various places it might take a very long time tracking it |
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back to KDE (thus spending lots of developer time). |
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Also, even _if_ users read the warnings and is willing to take the risk |
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it will end up taking lots of our time. |
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If we on the other hand say that we don't have much user support and |
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leave it at that it's all fine by me. But then this should be made |
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clear. |
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So, I'd say this particular issue is in the end my descission, wether or |
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not to branch the entire portage is _not_ my descision (alone), but I'd |
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say I should have a say in the matter. But that is out of the scoop for |
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this discussion. |
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Regards, |
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Mikael Hallendal |
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Mikael Hallendal |
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Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader |
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CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden |