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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 02:57:36
Message-Id: 20110802025712.GA3946@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook? by Zac Medico
1 On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 12:55:02PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
2 > On 08/01/2011 07:10 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
3 > > * Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto schrieb am 01.08.11 um 11:19 Uhr:
4 > >> I agree with Eray. Furthermore, please stop trying to reverse "the
5 > >> game". It's those that want to break existing policies and conventions
6 > >> that have to justify why they want to do that, not those that want to
7 > >> keep using what has worked for years.
8 > >
9 > > I wouldn't call the current static -workarounds, and files from / using
10 > > files from /usr, neither a clean solution or working
11 > >
12 > > The separation is unnecessary maintaince burden for something that has
13 > > maintaince free replacement
14 >
15 > Right. The root problem at the core of this whole discussion is that
16 > separating / and /usr is really a dependency satisfaction problem that
17 > requires maintenance.
18 >
19 > It seems absurd to manage this kind of dependency problem by hand when
20 > we can use the package manager to do it. For example, we could have
21 > packages that install into / set something like
22 > PROPERTIES="available-when-init-starts" (of course we'd use a shorter
23 > name), and the package manager would then be able to trigger a QA
24 > warning if one of these packages depends on a package that does not have
25 > PROPERTIES="available-when-init-starts" set.
26
27 RESTRICT=limit-to-init is a bit more inline w/ our norms.
28
29 Easy enough set of checks to add either way.
30 ~brian