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From: Georgi Georgiev <chutz@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Fixing the TERM mess
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:04:28
Message-Id: 20050824000100.GB94712@lion.gg3.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Fixing the TERM mess by Olivier Crete
1 maillog: 23/08/2005-16:57:28(-0400): Olivier Crete types
2 > I though about this thing last night, and frankly, I think its a lost
3 > cause. I remember that during the Gnome 1.x era, gnome-terminal used to
4 > set TERM=gnome (at least it did on Red Hat) and they had the proper
5 > termcap/terminfo entries. But they ended up going back to TERM=xterm,
6 > probably because it caused problems for their users, like login into
7 > anything else and being reduced to the lowest possible common
8 > denominator (like logging into a Solaris system and being reduced to
9 > non-visual mode by vi). And by the way, Solaris 2.8 still does not know
10 > about rxvt.
11 >
12 > As a gnome-terminal user, I've never had problems with anything that
13 > tried to use advanced xterm crap... probably because no uses them. If
14 > you want X stuff, just use a real X application (like gvim...). I'm
15 > strictly opposed to crippling my terminal use in the most common cases
16 > (such a logging into a non-Gentoo system) for one or two legacy
17 > applications.
18 >
19 > In the era of massive sshing, we have to forget terminfo and new
20 > terminal types. We should understand xterm to mean a basic x terminal
21 > and not the application from X.org.
22
23 Oh, come-on, just do "TERM=xterm ssh your.solaris.box" when you really
24 need to. Or, recalling Ciaran's opening post to this thread, put your
25 terminfo in ~/.terminfo (was it?) on those few machines.
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