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On 2016-06-02 05:27 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: |
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> On 06/02/2016 12:57 PM, Damien Levac wrote: |
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>> On 2016-06-02 03:42 PM, waltdnes@××××××××.org wrote: |
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>>> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote |
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>>>> IMHO, you see this in reverse. the 'gui' useflag would be useful for |
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>>>> users who don't want to care about X/wayland/mir and do not want to care |
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>>>> about gtk/qt, they just want windows to be drawn for the applications |
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>>>> they install -- without, if possible, pulling useless dependencies. |
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>>> How, exactly, will the app draw windows without linking against one of |
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>>> X/wayland/mir/qt4/qt5/gtk2/gtk3/fltk or whatever else comes down the |
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>>> pike? |
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>> It will be linked to one of those, but the users don't want to care so |
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>> reasonable default would apply. |
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>> For example, if I have setup my profile to be 'plasma', then having |
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>> 'gui' in my global use flags would mean "build with qt5 support to |
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>> provide my gui whenever possible, if not possible, fallback to whatever |
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>> is available at the discretion of the package maintainer". |
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>> 2 nice properties I foresee this feature will have: |
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>> * If you do not like it, don't use it. It shouldn't affect any user |
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>> unless they explicitly use the flag. |
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>> * Negating the flag would mean to not build any GUI (i.e. headless |
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>> server) which is cleaner than: '-qt3support -qt4 -qt5 -gtk -gtk3 -X |
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>> -waylang...' |
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>> I do not think the question is whether the flag would be useful: it |
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>> will. The question is: can it be implemented efficiently... |
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> To play devil's advocate, can we get a citation on "users don't want to |
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> care"? Which users? Does Gentoo have a lot of users who don't care, or |
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> does it attract a more passionate audience that enjoys the control that |
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> comes with being source-based? I'm inclined to believe the latter, but |
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> I'm ready to be wrong. |
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> |
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Personal experience: I use to care a lot and tweak my system a lot... |
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But I am not an eager undergraduate anymore, my interests have shift. I |
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still use Gentoo as I know the system very well and like it. But I am in |
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a point in my life where I want to focus on my work and not on whether |
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or not I am making a 'gtk-only' or 'qt-only' system... |
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