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On Tue January 06 2004 4:09 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 03:39, Robert Cole wrote: |
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> > On Mon January 05 2004 11:55 pm, Jon Portnoy wrote: |
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> > > Okay, let me explain a little bit about how the recruitment process |
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> > > works. |
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> > I like it. That's a very good process. I'm talking about ebuilds here. |
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> > I'll be honest and say I don't know how the backend of the portage tree |
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> > works with security and all but maybe another tier would be in order if |
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> > possible. Like a low access new ebuild access that gets queued and not |
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> > actually put in the tree and someone with access could simply flag it to |
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> > move into the tree or reject it sending an email back to the creator of |
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> > the ebuild why. |
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> That is exactly what is done with Bugzilla. If ti isn't being done on |
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> certain ebuild submissions, it should be. |
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I couldn't agree more with Allen on this. Bugzilla should be for software bugs |
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not ebuilds. It obviously sucks for that. |
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> Bugs will stay in Bugzilla if no developer wants to maintain the |
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> package. At the end of the day, if I submit an ebuild that you created, |
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> *I* am responsible for it, not you. Many developers do not want to take |
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> on the responsibility of maintaining ebuilds that they know little to |
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> nothing about. I know I surely don't. |
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Now this is just wrong. A cvs dev shouldn't have to shoulder someone elses |
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ebuild when the submitter is willing to maintain it. |
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<snip> |
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> than try to add new "testing" packages. As for ACCEPT_KEYWORDS, Gentoo |
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> does not use ~ARCH as an unstable area. It is an area for testing |
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> EBUILDS, not for testing packages. If a package is unstable, it doesn't |
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> belong in our tree. Period. |
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Whoa then I guess you better clear out half the gentoo tree then! Just because |
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a new release of a software is put out doesn't mean its stable. Heck look at |
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gcc, gnupg, cvs, etc yet because those packages have active maintainers they |
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get rev bumped within hours of a new release and some get downgraded quickly. |
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I run KDE 3.2 beta 2 but it's not 100% stable so you better hurry up and take |
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it out of the tree. |
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See how bogus " If a package is unstable, it doesn't belong in our tree. |
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Period." is? Simply not true. Gentoo is a bleeding edge distro and gets all |
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the latest releases of anything that has a maintainer beta, pre, or release. |
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> No. It is a bug that should be fixed by the developer/maintainer. It |
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> very well COULD be a developer's fault that someone's system went |
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> haywire. Usually, though, it is simply a combination of items which was |
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> not explicitly tested for and ends up being a bug in either the ebuild |
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> or the package itself. |
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And I say so what? Again as a gentoo user I accept that risk when I use the |
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gentoo distro. If I want "stable" I could run debian stable and be a few |
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years back on everything all the time. |
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> Yes. You can always add ebuilds to bugzilla. If you think people will |
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> be interested in them, stir up some support for them in the forums and |
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> have people test your ebuilds. Look at lots of ebuilds and see how the |
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> "official" developers do things and try to improve the general quality |
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> of your ebuilds. Try to help out on Bug Day. Prove yourself as a |
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> valuable asset to Gentoo and the development team will scoop you up |
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> quickly. It's that simple. |
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I'll do my best. I feel I owe gentoo, kde, openoffice.org, etc allot and right |
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now the only way I can pay back is testing and submitting ebuilds. When I |
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have the financial means I'll do that too. |
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Robert |
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