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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:19:24
Message-Id: 1500988752.795.3.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts? by Pacho Ramos
1 On wto, 2017-07-25 at 14:15 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
2 > El mar, 25-07-2017 a las 13:54 +0200, Michał Górny escribió:
3 > > Dnia 25 lipca 2017 11:18:21 CEST, Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> napisał(a):
4 > > > El mar, 25-07-2017 a las 08:18 +0200, Hans de Graaff escribió:
5 > > > > On Mon, 2017-07-24 at 23:22 +0000, Peter Stuge wrote:
6 > > > > >
7 > > > > > I hold a perhaps radical view: I would like to simply remove
8 > > >
9 > > > stable.
10 > > > > >
11 > > > > > [snip]
12 > > > > >
13 > > > > > I consider dev time a precious resource.
14 > > > >
15 > > > > If we were to drop stable I would have to start maintaining my own
16 > > > > stable lists to determine what would be ready to into production for
17 > > >
18 > > > my
19 > > > > company. In production "works most of the time" and "good enough"
20 > > > > simply aren't good enough.
21 > > > >
22 > > > > I estimate that would at least equal the amount of time I'm currently
23 > > > > spending on Gentoo work, and consequently my contributions to Gentoo
24 > > > > would dwindle to a halt. Most likely I would start looking at other
25 > > > > solutions altogether.
26 > > > >
27 > > > > > More troubleshooting and fixing "hard" problems, less routine work.
28 > > > >
29 > > > > Except that some of that routine work is actually what I enjoy doing
30 > > >
31 > > > in
32 > > > > Gentoo. I already get plenty of the other two in my day job.
33 > > > >
34 > > > > Hans
35 > > >
36 > > > If stable goes away I will simply switch to other distribution and
37 > > > retire
38 > >
39 > > What's the "over my dead commit access" spirit? 
40 > >
41 >
42 > Jumping from trying to maintain stable tree to arches dead for ages to drop all
43 > stable trees looks to me like a joke promoted by people that has never handled
44 > any stabilization request and saw on them how running a pure "testing" system is
45 > impossible on many conditions. It seems that some people think that if it fits
46 > ok for them, it will fit for all others like we were all using Gentoo for doing
47 > the same.
48 >
49
50 I'm sorry, that was supposed to be 'where', not 'what' (stupid
51 autocompletion!). I simply meant to say that you should have said 'over
52 my dead commit access' there ;-).
53
54
55 --
56 Best regards,
57 Michał Górny

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