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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:23:47
Message-Id: 1500989013.4544.84.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts? by "Michał Górny"
1 El mar, 25-07-2017 a las 15:19 +0200, Michał Górny escribió:
2 > On wto, 2017-07-25 at 14:15 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
3 > > El mar, 25-07-2017 a las 13:54 +0200, Michał Górny escribió:
4 > > > Dnia 25 lipca 2017 11:18:21 CEST, Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
5 > > > napisał(a):
6 > > > > El mar, 25-07-2017 a las 08:18 +0200, Hans de Graaff escribió:
7 > > > > > On Mon, 2017-07-24 at 23:22 +0000, Peter Stuge wrote:
8 > > > > > >
9 > > > > > > I hold a perhaps radical view: I would like to simply remove
10 > > > >
11 > > > > stable.
12 > > > > > >
13 > > > > > > [snip]
14 > > > > > >
15 > > > > > > I consider dev time a precious resource.
16 > > > > >
17 > > > > > If we were to drop stable I would have to start maintaining my own
18 > > > > > stable lists to determine what would be ready to into production for
19 > > > >
20 > > > > my
21 > > > > > company. In production "works most of the time" and "good enough"
22 > > > > > simply aren't good enough.
23 > > > > >
24 > > > > > I estimate that would at least equal the amount of time I'm currently
25 > > > > > spending on Gentoo work, and consequently my contributions to Gentoo
26 > > > > > would dwindle to a halt. Most likely I would start looking at other
27 > > > > > solutions altogether.
28 > > > > >
29 > > > > > > More troubleshooting and fixing "hard" problems, less routine work.
30 > > > > >
31 > > > > > Except that some of that routine work is actually what I enjoy doing
32 > > > >
33 > > > > in
34 > > > > > Gentoo. I already get plenty of the other two in my day job.
35 > > > > >
36 > > > > > Hans
37 > > > >
38 > > > > If stable goes away I will simply switch to other distribution and
39 > > > > retire
40 > > >
41 > > > What's the "over my dead commit access" spirit? 
42 > > >
43 > >
44 > > Jumping from trying to maintain stable tree to arches dead for ages to drop
45 > > all
46 > > stable trees looks to me like a joke promoted by people that has never
47 > > handled
48 > > any stabilization request and saw on them how running a pure "testing"
49 > > system is
50 > > impossible on many conditions. It seems that some people think that if it
51 > > fits
52 > > ok for them, it will fit for all others like we were all using Gentoo for
53 > > doing
54 > > the same.
55 > >
56 >
57 > I'm sorry, that was supposed to be 'where', not 'what' (stupid
58 > autocompletion!). I simply meant to say that you should have said 'over
59 > my dead commit access' there ;-).
60 >
61 >
62
63 Ah, no problem. I am also sorry for my quick response to the thread but,
64 seriously, when I read the suggestion I was like =O
65
66 Best regards!