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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:08:31
Message-Id: 200308281308.29912.pauldv@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop by dams@idm.fr
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4 On Thursday 28 August 2003 12:51, dams@×××.fr wrote:
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6 > The problem is that the conclusion will tend to tune/modify the DE, and it
7 > seems that people here don't want that, they want vanilla DE. For ex., menu
8 > system is the first improvment I think of, but it has a big impact on the
9 > look&feel of the DE. If we don't want DE tuned, then we cannot use debian
10 > like menu system.
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12 That is true, there might be some custom parts in the DE's. I those cases I
13 think we should have some "vanilla" useflag that turns of
14 customizations/hacks that are gentoo-specific and are safe to turn of
15 >
16 > > That research leads sometimes to proposed changes. Each of these changes
17 > > will be judged according to a.o. how easy it is to implement them, how
18 > > standard they are, whether they conform to the gentoo way, etc.
19 >
20 > This can be done if we have decided before if we want or not have a gentoo
21 > desktop touch. I don't think it is now decided.
22 >
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24 I for one would like the possibility of automated menus. But I feel such a
25 system needs to be respectfull of what the wm developers use. This would mean
26 that some user visible changes (like different locations of files) need both
27 be made optional and need to be documented.
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30 > > The general idea being that if it is possible everything should just work
31 > > after the emerge command has been completed. This also might involve
32 > > changing default configuration files to work with the way things are
33 > > installed in gentoo (like specifying the correct location of programs).
34 > > This does however not mean that just anything can be changed in the
35 > > default configurations. Look and feel should be as standard as possible.
36 > > (for example k3b should just work out of the box and know allready where
37 > > cdrecord is installed, etc.)
38 >
39 > The last example is not a desktop issue for me. It's the maintainer to do
40 > this, and to ask the cdrecord maintainer informations, if he needs it.
41
42 No, you're right (except that k3b falls under the resp. of -desktop), but the
43 general issue might be more prominent.
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45 Paul
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