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From: dams@×××.fr
To: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:26:01
Message-Id: m2d6eq81hx.fsf@krotkine.idm.fr
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop by Paul de Vrieze
1 Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o> said:
2
3 > On Thursday 28 August 2003 12:51, dams@×××.fr wrote:
4 >>
5 >> The problem is that the conclusion will tend to tune/modify the DE, and it
6 >> seems that people here don't want that, they want vanilla DE. For ex., menu
7 >> system is the first improvment I think of, but it has a big impact on the
8 >> look&feel of the DE. If we don't want DE tuned, then we cannot use debian
9 >> like menu system.
10 >
11 > That is true, there might be some custom parts in the DE's. I those cases I
12 > think we should have some "vanilla" useflag that turns of
13 > customizations/hacks that are gentoo-specific and are safe to turn of
14
15 That's feasable, but may add some maintainance overloading
16
17 >>
18 >> > That research leads sometimes to proposed changes. Each of these changes
19 >> > will be judged according to a.o. how easy it is to implement them, how
20 >> > standard they are, whether they conform to the gentoo way, etc.
21 >>
22 >> This can be done if we have decided before if we want or not have a gentoo
23 >> desktop touch. I don't think it is now decided.
24 >>
25 >
26 > I for one would like the possibility of automated menus. But I feel such a
27 > system needs to be respectfull of what the wm developers use. This would mean
28 > that some user visible changes (like different locations of files) need both
29 > be made optional and need to be documented.
30
31 I totally agree on that. We don't want to goo too deep in technical/feature
32 description. We could say : if the vanilla flag is not set, then by default we
33 have a centralized menu, respectfull of each DE.
34
35 >
36 >
37 >> > The general idea being that if it is possible everything should just work
38 >> > after the emerge command has been completed. This also might involve
39 >> > changing default configuration files to work with the way things are
40 >> > installed in gentoo (like specifying the correct location of programs).
41 >> > This does however not mean that just anything can be changed in the
42 >> > default configurations. Look and feel should be as standard as possible.
43 >> > (for example k3b should just work out of the box and know allready where
44 >> > cdrecord is installed, etc.)
45 >>
46 >> The last example is not a desktop issue for me. It's the maintainer to do
47 >> this, and to ask the cdrecord maintainer informations, if he needs it.
48 >
49 > No, you're right (except that k3b falls under the resp. of -desktop), but the
50 > general issue might be more prominent.
51
52 yeah
53
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55 dams
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