Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

[Alec Joseph Warner]

IMHO a lot of the auto-use stuff that is "mis-used" is moreso what IUSE 
defaults is for.  I have a crappy patch for IUSE defaults that I may try 
to work on so that it can be merged in the 2.1/2.2 branch.  I realize 
that this is probably a bit far off, but will hopefully improve the 
situation.

Of course at that point we can dump the crappy nocxx flags too ;)

solar wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 06:57 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>
>>as one of the new sane features of the next portage-2.1_pre release, we're
>>looking to cut out use.defaults support
>
>
> I see this as a good and bad thing. Good in one hand that less autojunk
> would be enabled like python/perl bindings not being added to every
> program on your system that supports it. Bad in the other hand I see
> the state of profiles getting worse=more bloated. The autouse itself is
> not a bad feature or idea if it were used properly. Problem is that
> it's not been used properly. If it were limited to simple things like
> just X and the things that actually make sense then it would even be
> fine to keep and would allow some of the more bloated (default-linux)
> profiles to be cleaned up. Shrug. I like the existing behavior and the
> power of deciding for myself when and where I want to take advantage of
> USE_ORDER=
>
>
>
>
>>existing stable users wont be affected as the 2.0.x versions will continue to
>>carry support for this, but some of you stable users may notice some USE
>>flags suddenly "disappearing"
>>
>>to recap, use.defaults inserts USE flags for you based upon what packages you
>>have installed when you havent declared a preference.  for example, if you
>>have neither '-cups' or 'cups' in your USE (either in your make.conf,
>>profile, env, whatever), but you do have the net-print/cups package
>>installed, portage will add 'cups' to your USE
>>-mike
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