Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 09:04 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 16:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >> Honestly, the only reason there is any suggestion of a conspiracy is
> >> because of the threats being made by certain people to keep a certain
> >> log a secret...
> >
> > The log contains information that was given to us in confidence.  How
> > much plainer do I have to make it?  We can not, and WILL NOT break that
> > trust.  It really is that simple.
>
> Here's how it appears to someone reading all this, though:
>
> Ciaran *already knows* what's going on, which means that some person(s)
> who *were* privy to those meetings have talked, plain and simple. If
> that's true, then the information is out one way or another, and now the
> Council can decide if they want to talk about it first or let someone
> who wasn't actually at those meetings to divulge all the details.

Well, from what I can gather, he only *thinks* he knows what was going
on and he's filled in the blanks himself with whatever ideas he's come
up with on his own.  If he really does have the logs, he wouldn't be
spouting off at the mouth since he would know that there's nothing
damning in there, at all.

> I guess it comes down to the trust you expect the Gentoo developers who
> voted for you in the first place to have in you against the trust the
> council members have in each other. This isn't a matter of throwing
> someone to the wolves, but consider the rest of the trust. :)

I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here.  Are you saying that
Gentoo developers would lose trust in us because we are keeping our word
to people who spoke to us in confidence?  Are you referring to a
potential leak?

As I said, I will not betray the trust put in me.  If someone says
something in confidence to me, it'll stay that way.  I cannot speak for
all of the other Council members, but I put the same level of trust in
them to do the same.  If one of them really has taken private
conversations and made them public, then we really do have a problem and
we need to address it, because that can severely damage Gentoo as a
whole very easily.  If nobody trusts us anymore, why will they support
us?  Simple.  They won't.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation