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On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:00, Paul de Vrieze wrote: |
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> The menu system is not about having the same menu in all windowmanagers as |
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> much as it is about having every application added to the menu of whatever |
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> windowmanager you are using. Independent of what kind of toolkit the |
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> application uses. A vanilla useflag would function like currently the foreign |
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> package flag does for the kdeadmin ebuild. That flag enables the compilation |
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> of a package manager that is standard but currently does not work well with |
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> gentoo (it being not an rpm based system). |
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I know it isn't, but it's one of the uses. I was thinking when i wrote |
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it i should've explicitly added that it wasn't all this is about, but |
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thought it unneeded. Wrong again, it was just an example. |
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I was later on hammering at the fact that the wm's better be adapted by |
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us than us providing layers of stitchy support on distro level. |
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> For the menu system it might be necessary to patch some windowmanagers to be |
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> able to use our menu's while keeping some compatibility with a situation |
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> where the menu manager is not installed. Those changes are normally small and |
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> localised, but generally change some part of the plumbing of such a program |
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> while keeping generally the same behaviour. If you want to hack with a |
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> windowmanager yourself those changes might be confusing and hence the |
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> "vanilla" flag |
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Vanilla flag for what, if it's not good enough for everyone it shouldn't |
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be needed. Although we are still talking details of 1 proposed project |
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here with 1 possible implementation in mind. I don't think that is what |
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this thread was meant to be about. |
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> The idea is not to create some monstrous gentoo-specific monstrosity as redhat |
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> does with kde. It is just small changes to make sure that everything "just |
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> works". For example take a look to |
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> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14872 |
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> Which is an enhancement I wrote so that things like kmail gpg support is easy |
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> to install, just as all kinds of IME's (for our asian friends) |
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All interesting stuff i know about and i agree with it would be nice to |
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have implemented. But i react to the initial mail here which implies |
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much bigger changes. As said i'm not against patching up stuff a little |
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when functional. |
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> Gnome's configuration does not include a menu system with all installed X |
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> applications |
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I assume these 'X applications' you speak of don't even install desktop |
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items at all. This could be easily fixed by providing current |
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freedesktop spec following items. |
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- foser |
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