Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

[Samuli Suominen]

On 07/31/2011 02:22 PM, Kacper Kowalik wrote:
> W dniu 30.07.2011 15:55, Samuli Suominen pisze:
>> On 07/30/2011 01:46 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:27:27 +0300
>>> Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o> wrote:
>>>> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on top
>>>> of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long time
>>>> now[1][2][3]
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235
>>>> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr
>>>> [3]
>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
>>>>
>>>> Can we warn users about not doing the separate /usr mistake in the
>>>> handbook?
>>>
>>> It's important to consider the timeline here. Separate /usr was
>>> accidentally broken by a sudden increase in dependencies from base
>>> system packages to desktopy things. It was only later that certain
>>> people decided that "oh, separate /usr is a bad idea anyway", and they
>>> did so because they couldn't figure out how to fix the mess they'd
>>> caused. This is very much a case of carelessly letting the horse escape
>>> and then trying to convince everyone that no-one needs a horse anyway...
>>>
>>
>> Someone mentioned NFS mount on /usr.  Do we have other reasons?  How
>> many users that might be?
>
> That covers headless/diskless clusters and I suspect many people still
> do that.
> Cheers,
> Kacper
>
>

I haven't tested but it seems this is not a problem afterall:

USE="nbd" for dracut enables the NFS support:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut/Options#NFS