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From: Kacper Kowalik <xarthisius@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:23:37
Message-Id: 4E353AFF.50408@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook? by Samuli Suominen
1 W dniu 30.07.2011 15:55, Samuli Suominen pisze:
2 > On 07/30/2011 01:46 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
3 >> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:27:27 +0300
4 >> Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o> wrote:
5 >>> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on top
6 >>> of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long time
7 >>> now[1][2][3]
8 >>>
9 >>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235
10 >>> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr
11 >>> [3]
12 >>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
13 >>>
14 >>> Can we warn users about not doing the separate /usr mistake in the
15 >>> handbook?
16 >>
17 >> It's important to consider the timeline here. Separate /usr was
18 >> accidentally broken by a sudden increase in dependencies from base
19 >> system packages to desktopy things. It was only later that certain
20 >> people decided that "oh, separate /usr is a bad idea anyway", and they
21 >> did so because they couldn't figure out how to fix the mess they'd
22 >> caused. This is very much a case of carelessly letting the horse escape
23 >> and then trying to convince everyone that no-one needs a horse anyway...
24 >>
25 >
26 > Someone mentioned NFS mount on /usr. Do we have other reasons? How
27 > many users that might be?
28
29 That covers headless/diskless clusters and I suspect many people still
30 do that.
31 Cheers,
32 Kacper

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