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On 07/30/2011 01:46 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:27:27 +0300 |
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> Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o> wrote: |
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>> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on top |
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>> of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long time |
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>> now[1][2][3] |
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>> |
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>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235 |
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>> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr |
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>> [3] |
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>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken |
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>> Can we warn users about not doing the separate /usr mistake in the |
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>> handbook? |
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> It's important to consider the timeline here. Separate /usr was |
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> accidentally broken by a sudden increase in dependencies from base |
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> system packages to desktopy things. It was only later that certain |
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> people decided that "oh, separate /usr is a bad idea anyway", and they |
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> did so because they couldn't figure out how to fix the mess they'd |
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> caused. This is very much a case of carelessly letting the horse escape |
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> and then trying to convince everyone that no-one needs a horse anyway... |
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Someone mentioned NFS mount on /usr. Do we have other reasons? How |
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many users that might be? |
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I dislike the documentation not being clear on separate /usr, that it |
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should only be used if you *really* need it due to the potential problems |
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I dislike the IUSE="+static" some packages are currently doing to |
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workaround this, instead of moving the needed shared libs to / |
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I dislike the idea of pciutils and usbutils database(s) in non-standard |
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location in / to keep udev working |
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I dislike the idea of moving libglib-2.0, libdbus-1, libdbus-glib-1, and |
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couple of dozen more libs to / |
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I dislike the idea of maintaining and keeping track of the files in / |
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using files from /usr. Does any of the PMs have check for this, like |
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NEEDED entries? I can imagine this getting past the maintainers easily |
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otherwise |
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Most likely still not seeing the full picture here, and just scratching |
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the surface... |
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Despite that, I don't have any strong opinion on any of this, just need |
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to know if I should start moving the files over |
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